They may look like travel shampoo bottles and smell like bubblegum, but after a few hundred puffs, some disposable, electronic cigarettes and vape pods release higher amounts of toxic metals than older e-cigarettes and traditional cigarettes, according to a study from the University of California, Davis. For example, one of the disposable e-cigarettes studied released more lead during a day’s use than nearly 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.

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    14 hours ago

    Do these threats exist in the exhaled smoke? It seems like people around me don’t GAF about the exhaust from vapes.

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      Those people are jackasses and should be shamed. I quit a 6 year cigarette smoking habit with just one year of using an actual vape, not these shitty gas station things. One of the best decisions I’ve made in my life. The potential for smoking cessation is there. But stupid and obnoxious people set the basis for stereotypes.

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        7 hours ago

        It’s not from the coil, at least in the cases that this article is about, but other parts of the tank. Shitty manufacturing, anyways

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          Or just another shitty study like the one they did in Oregon where they fired the coils for 60 seconds at a time and literally melted the rigs down before measuring what chemicals off gassed from the smoldering pile of plastic and metal.

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    If you read the paper, it assumes a 100% absorption rate of the heavy metals emitted.

    I’m not here to defend vapes but I think that is a seriously overlooked flaw in this study. Most people don’t puff a cigarette/vape and hold it in their lungs until it’s completely absorbed.

    Couldn’t see anything about the bioavailability of these carcinogens via lungs factored into the absorption rate either.

    Ontop of that the sample size from this study is abysmal and from the same manufacturer and there is also a declared conflict of interest.

    IMO more studies need to be done before we can conclusively determine the damage and risks of disposable vapes.

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      They’re comparing it to cigarettes and other vapes.

      20 times more lead is still 20 times more lead.

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        Cigarettes have a myriad of carcinogens like toluene, benzene, formadelhyde, hexamine, napthaline and acetone

        Stating that vapes are more toxic than cigarettes over one metric is disingenuous journalism.

        I’m not disagreeing about the lead content but studies like this get picked up by journalists with the comprehension of a tomato and are then misconstrued into these fear-creating headlines for engagement.

        The adoption of vapes tremendously ate into the big tobacco profits, its an extremely effective way of getting off cigarettes. (for better or worse)

        If we instead listened to these studies and developed a similar form of nicotine replacement therapy with harm minimisation in mind under industry regulation we’d do far more for smokers, vapers and our healthcare systems than any fear mongering ‘don’t do it!’ campaigns which time and time again do not work.

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          I said they tested them against cigarettes and older vapes.

          You’re the one msirepresenting the study.

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        Given how short the DMT trip is—and the fact that DMT vapes are a thing now—this is entirely possible. I mean I’ve done it. It’s a lot harder to break through than you think. You’re still going to be mostly grounded with reality. You’ll have some trippy thoughts and see some pretty neat visuals, then it’s back to normal in under 10 minutes.

        That said, I would still only recommend this to people who have tripped at least once before. If you’re looking to replace your oral fixation, I’d recommend a 1:1:1 weed vape for day-to-day use, and a higher THC live resin formula for the evenings.

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    One of the few benefits of Trump’s de minimus revocation is that smuggling these in through parcel shipping will significantly be reduced.

    In the end though, you should be mixing your own juice and ideally wrapping your own coils if you vape. It’s easy and it’s damn cheap by comparison(what’s sold locally for 28 dollars I mix myself for 3) and you know exactly what’s in it.

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      That’s what I’ve done for years now. I started at the very beginning when we were using eGo batteries and Nova tanks and rewicking them with tea bags. Now I use quality kanthal that I sourced a lot of when the place I was using shut off access to the hobbiest market (they may have returned, but I don’t remember the name). There’s some sort of certification sticker on the spools of wire that specify it is Kanthal A1 which contains aluminum as the most concerning metal.

      Who the fuck KNOWS what these resistance wires in the disposables are. The vape manufacturer probably doesn’t even know and really, doesn’t care. All they have to do is get close to the right resistance for each coil produced and the computer takes care of the rest. Lead makes metal bend easier so if you throw a little lead in your resistance wire it’s going to go through the machine easier.

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    I’m glad it’s never the weed vapes. Quit nicotine and just use those instead. They have low-THC blends to ease you into the habit if you don’t normally partake. Just ask your local dispensary employee—They’re all a bunch of stoners who mainly work there for the free weed (cause the pay sucks), so they love showing newbies the way. Don’t be afraid to ask.

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      Go buy weed and pay tax. Weed may be made illegal again but not if you buy it…

      In other news, weed vapes weren’t studied here.

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    What! So you’re telling me that all the people I know who stopped smoking cigarettes and are now smoking vapes it’s bad for them? And yet they tell me it’s actually good and healthy for them? I’m totally shocked!