A woman drives with both hands on the wheel. Her phone sits face-down on her lap. No officer pulls her over. No lights flash. Weeks later, a $1,251 ticket arrives in the mail. The evidence: a single frame from a Camera surveillance app. The charge: phone use while driving.

Automated camera companies market their devices as automated license plate readers — tools for catching stolen cars, flagging warrants, and aiding serious investigations.

Sold as a Crime Tool. Used as a Fine Machine.

  • dandu3@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    Why would the phone be on your lap if you’re not using it?

    This is kinda justified.

    • theherk@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      Because you aren’t using it. It isn’t in your lap when you’re using it. How do you use your mobile?

    • blitzen@lemmy.ca
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      18 days ago

      Not even a little justified. What are you on about?

      Phone is on her lap specifically because she’s not using it.

      • JamesTBagg@lemmy.world
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        18 days ago

        I hate flock, I hate the surveillance state we’ve lived in for decades. But you don’t just drive with a phone in your lap. She may not have been using it when the camera caught her but we all know she was definitely fucking using it. You’re lying.

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          18 days ago

          There’s a law against driving with your phone in your lap? That’s crazy.

    • spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      18 days ago

      By the same logic if you’re transporting unopened liquor in a grocery bag on the seat next to you it’s “kinda justified” to be arrested for drinking while driving. After all why would it be in arm’s reach if you weren’t planning on drinking it?

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      18 days ago

      Idiots downvoting you are the exact reason we end up with so many laws that seem ridiculous. You’re exactly right, why would it be in her lap if she hadn’t been using? Saying she’s innocent because it wasn’t actively in her hand, is like saying you’re just carrying a bloody knife, but they didn’t catch you stabbing the guy, so too bad.

      In Australia, your phone must be stowed or in an approved cradle when driving, because, people would be using their phone and then drop it in their lap when caught and try to claim they were just carrying it there. Not that it got them out of the fine, it just saved time with idiots arguing.

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        18 days ago

        My phone is in my lap while driving all the time because I take it out of my back pocket to not squish it when sitting down and I don’t have anywhere else to put it. Usually I remember to tuck it down beneath my legs, but sometimes I forget.

        • bountygiver [any]@lemmy.ml
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          18 days ago

          There’s a bunch of trays that can hold your phone all over, newer ones even make some dedicated ones that would wirelessly charge your phone. Put it there, your lap is not a stable surface, and sure will distract you when the sudden movement causes it to slide off.