• Smoogs@lemmy.world
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    Well that’s how you prep for a midterm. Fuck with one country’s politics, expect to get hit in the nose.

    Carney isn’t one to fuck with. Look close on which riding he took when he ran for election. Look close at the neighboring riding.

    Dude leans on known adversaries. He got his moves mapped 20 fold

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    Just goes to show Canada is the nicest place: despite all the bs we’re shoveling their way, they’re still acting as friends, trying to help us past our mental breakdown without harming the rest of us

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      We are not happy with you, we are being nice but we are not happy with you. Most of us want to burn your Whitehouse again like back in 1812.

      Lots of damage has been done and I would say there is more coming from your orange mussolini.

      The fact that there isn’t 100k people in front of the Whitehouse protesting daily at this point tells us your population doesn’t care about how your country is changing.

      We would move away from you if we could because you have betrayed our good nature.

      You cant absolve what has happened by pretending it hasn’t happened.

      We will never be the “51st state” but maybe we will liberate you one day and you can become Canadian.

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        Most of us want to burn your Whitehouse again like back in 1812.

        White house was burned down by the British army. We don’t need to burn it down, the next riot when Trump loses will do that.

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          I guess only time will tell but im not holding my breath on that.

          At this point there should be masses of people protesting at the Whitehouse but obviously you guys are too busy playing the culture war thing to give a fuck about your democracy.

          Canadians burnt down the Whitehouse even if they were “British” at the time.

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      I mean, I dont buy anything from the states anymore. Blue or red state, I dont care. I aint buying it. Sucks but its an economic war.

      Also I dont want to get sick from your rotten-ass produce.

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    75% of Canadians supported Carney backing out of the trade deal. This is despite the fact that it will cause massive economic hardship to Canada to accept these tariffs.

    Canadians are pissed, and are willing to accept economic hardship in order to stand up to a bully.

    For decades Canada has just accepted whatever the US has demanded. For example, Canada has aligned its copyright laws to match US laws, which Hollywood was demanding. It has accepted that Canadians installing a Canadian-made app on their phones have to pay a 30% cut to an American company.

    This was because the US, in exchange, was giving Canada free access to the American market. Canadian potash, lumber, energy, etc. could all be sold to the US without tariffs. Now Trump has reneged on that deal.

    Carney has promised counter-tariffs, but I want to see a real trade war. Fuck the US copyright laws. Fuck the DMCA. Fuck American printers that won’t allow you to use your own ink. Fuck US tractors that can only be repaired by their US manufacturer. Canada should not only refuse to honour US intellectual property, I want Americans to travel to Canada to get their phones unlocked, to pay Canadians online for software to de-DRM their printers. What’s the downside? The US will counter with tariffs? Done that. The US will try to cut Canada’s access to Netflix off? We have bittorrent here.

    Americans keep talking about this being a David vs Goliath fight, but for an ultra-religious country, they sure don’t seem to remember how that bible story ended.

    Edited to add: In the early days of the USA it was a pirate nation, in many ways. There were Americans acting as privateers, basically pirates who were protected / supported by the US. The US also was infamous for ignoring copyrights on authors from Europe.

    I don’t think it’s very likely that Canada is going to be brave enough to repeal the copyright laws that the US forced Canada into adopting. But, maybe, a 21st century “privateer” is possible. What if Carney walked over to the head of the RCMP and off the record put the word out that the RCMP was to stop cooperating with the FBI on any actions against Canadians accused of violating US IP laws. What if the government decriminalized laws against circumventing copyright protection.

    For a long while before marijuana was legalized, it was decriminalized. It was pretty common to see people smoking pot on the street, which was technically illegal, and a cop would just walk by and ignore it. But, that was all done in an above-board way. I think it’s entirely possible something like that could be done through back channels with nothing written down.

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        And many Americans would love Canada if Canadians would sell them those drugs at costs far below what the American Pharma industry was charging.

        That would be a great move, piss off the US pharma companies while getting on the good side of individual Americans.

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          if Canadians would sell them those drugs at costs far below what the American Pharma industry was charging.

          The mail order pharmacies were charging Americans less than they would pay at home - and It caused a few shortages of some medications for Canadian patients.

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            Yeah, in a trade war there are casualties. Maybe the Canadian government could do more to increase supply to those privateer mail order “pharmacies”, or something.

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              Or cut them off.

              Make Americans fix their own system instead of leeching off ours.

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          And many Americans would love Canada if Canadians would sell them those drugs at costs far below what the American Pharma industry was charging.

          Oh thats so fiendish.

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            Easy to do too. Probably the easiest thing on this whole wishlist. Canadian “pharmacies” that sell products shipped by mail into the US already exist. I’m sure they’d happily sell even more stuff that was freely available in Canada patent and license free.

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      The religious people here don’t actually read their book, they get told what to think.

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    Positive reinforcement works as well! Gotta give blue states something good to entice fence sitters. For instance, you could annex Minnesota.

    Sincerely

    A Minnesotan

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      Does he even commit insider trading anymore? Once you accept outright bribes, laundered bitcoin, and shakedowns of both corps and other countries, insider trading seems like the hard way of doing things

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    Traitor Danielle Smith from Alberta has been suspiciously quiet, since she is on the white houses payroll I expect her to break ranks pretty soon.

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    dear mr. poopy pants:
    fuck off.
    sorry. we’re canadian. let me rephrase that, eh?
    kindly fuck off.
    we’ll talk to the next guy or gal in charge.
    from the great white north,
    canada

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    They must be punished! I need the entire world to put the Untied States on economic time out until it behaves

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    Should only be part of strategy. Should give strong investment/production ultimatums to specific large US companies that sell to Canadians. Failure to comply with ultimatums results in much better value to Canadians from Chinese alternatives.

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      Doug Ford

      as shitty as the guy is, at least he’s standing up to Trump

      I just hope Ontarians don’t forget how he has and continues to fuck them over