• Batmorous@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    Rest in peace sir. Thank you for all that you have done for Norwegian people and people around the world.

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      25 days ago

      The Nordics and some other countries in Europe uphold a powerless monarchy.

      … Essentially they’re a kind of celebrity…

      • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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        25 days ago

        They aren’t powerless at all. In fact the monarch family in question are proven Epstein rapists, and yet they are not in prison forever. That is political power, plain and simple.

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          25 days ago

          The monarch family in question has a convicted rapist (aka Temu Jeffrey) and the wife of the king (more known as Queen.Nette Marit) has some rather questionable by ties and contacts to Epstein. It’s her son by different marriage/family that is the rapist.

          So - in no shapes, events, terms or folding of space did Temu Joffrey (Marius Borg Høiby) get into rape vicinity of Epstein. And I beboerne er can rule out lesbian rape by the now Queen.

          Meaning these two things (rape and Epstein vicinity of unknown intimacy) exist, but the vend diagram is not touching

    • thedarkfly@feddit.org
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      24 days ago

      If your question is genuine: Kings in European constitutional monarchies (or at least in Belgium) play a political part outside of the political circus of constant posturing.

      First, they help to broker deals between parties elected by the people. In Belgium we have the awesome proportional representation, meaning that we escape the drawbacks of first-past-the-post. But we have a shitton of parties that need to negociate and compromise. The king is the showrunner but only elected officials are in power in the end.

      Second, they perform diplomatic missions. These missions rely on personal bonds maintained over decades are more stable than for a president that can change every few years. The phone calls of the King allowed Belgium to obtain needed gear during the covid pandemic. We can also see how quickly relations can suffer when a bad president is in office. A King means stability.

      Finally, the King must know his place. If he steps out of line and expresses the tiniest personal political opinion, he’s sidelined real quick. That happened in Belgium when the King refused to sign legalization of abortion. The parliament declared him unable to reign and the law was passed anyway.

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        25 days ago

        Then why aren’t they sent to jail when they get caught raping children with Epstein?

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        25 days ago

        Sorry. There is just something particularly vile about any human being claiming hereditary power over another, no matter how ceremonial. If I had it my way, I would make it a capital offense for the holder of any title of hereditary nobility to step foot on US territory. I don’t care how well liked a king is or how well funded their PR department. You cannot be a good person while claiming the right from birth to rule over other human beings. It’s a moral abomination.

        Call me a militant anti-monarchist if you want. But I truly believe the only good king is a dead one.

        • Otter@lemmy.ca
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          25 days ago

          The thing is

          • There are delusional leaders in democratic systems that build a cult of personality and market themselves as having been picked by God to lead, some even going to authoritarian lengths to cement their rule. The united states is currently one of those countries, and I think that is a far more dangerous thing to block from my country than Norway’s monarchy
          • many monarchies are hereditary celebrities rather than hereditary leaders, where the position is kept around for the tourism value and they do not have (or claim to have) any right to rule over people

          So when you make a comment saying that “they deserved it” about someone whose crime is being born into the spotlight, despite any good they may have done with that position, people are going to think you’re an uninformed jerk.

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        25 days ago

        As a Norwegian that felt nothing when I read the news compared to my wife: thank you.

      • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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        25 days ago

        So basically, OP just posts whatever’s edgy and vaguely leftist.

        Anyone wanna bet on if they do absolutely anything about politics in meatspace?