This is probably the backstory. Rhonda Ryan’s world…poor guy will be held at gunpoint streaming until he dies or kills his parents
Google sitting over there just like “sux to be you, dude”.
So the goal was $20 on an ad campaign? Might as well light a $20 bill on fire. That won’t move the needle at all. Also why does a Minecraft channel of a nine year old need a advertising campaign. A nine year old has all the time in the world to learn how to make compelling content and grow organically. The goal for a nine year old shouldn’t be high subscriber/viewer count. The dad could have turned it into a teaching moment when the kid complained about low viewership instead of throwing money at it no matter how small it was supposed to be
Sometimes the parent needs the teaching moment. This was one.
Holy shit the astroturfing in this comment section is crazy. If a 9 year old went into any other store and used a company card the store would reasonably refuse to sell 100k worth of goods. If the payment system Google implemented doesn’t even verify who is paying then that’s negligence on their part.
It was the dad who entered the card number. It was his fault. He created a Google advertising profile, but his business card on it, and then handed the reins to a child.
The biggest issue here is that dad thought he could embezzle $20 at a time, but accidentally did $120k all at once. lol. lmao even.
Lack of constant online surveillance is a good thing, btw. Expecting Google to have caught this doesn’t make any sense.
The guy you’re responding to has a valid point.
No way the son would get away with these actions at a physical store. “My dad was in here earlier, you saw him, i like to keep using his credit card tho, thanks”
Gee, I wonder why scamming is so huge after turning the digital market in to full “end-user responsibility” and tech companies removing carefully curated practices over the centuties for profit maximization.
Google earns billions of these scummy tactics to get users to spend as much as possible by removing any barriers of control and security. Why dont they get any of the responsibility?
It’s only a valid point if you’re talking about mobile app purchases where Google actually abuses parent/child financial decisions.
Google’s advertising business is a different story altogether. You’re expected to spend quite a lot on campaigns, and not expected to hand control over to a child.
Fuck Google, but if you’re advocating for them to do identity and age verification before buying services imma have to disagree
You should need to prove that the card is yours, at the very least. Like, that amount of money and nobody even reviews the content being made? That somehow a child has spent over 100k? It should never have been allowed to reach this point.
That the CC can be used without any form of validation seems to be a problem here.
If Google would just verify the security code or something, couldve easily claimed the user made a willing purchase in such case.
But removing such barriers is more profitable.
“Astroturfing” as if Lemmy is popular enough to have any of that yet
The dad was a dummy. First, your little kid shouldn’t have a YouTube channel. Second, you don’t use a company card to buy Robux. That’s a moronic thing to do. Might have gone unnoticed but then he got careless with it and it came back to bite him. Bad parenting all around. Don’t blame the kid, blame the dad. Hopefully he learns a hard lesson and can find new work.
- 9 yo Kid is making vidya
- Doesn’t have many viewers
- Want to make kid happy
- Spend 20 $ on ads
- maybe_a_couple_views.png
- Three weeks later
- I’m literally 118 009 $ in debt
MFW
Honestly, if you can’t understand how absolutely debilitating this is over a tiny misstep, I hardly know what to say. People commit manslaughter and get off easier that this. It’s in no way reasonable to say that “Oh, you shouldn’t have used the company card to pay 20$ for your kid - you deserve life-ruining debt”.
Allowing a child to associate their happiness with view counts is a terrible idea. Already too many sociopaths in “content creation” as it is.
Sure, I’m not advocating for doing what he did, regardless how he paid for it. I’m putting myself in the shoes of a young father that just wanted to make his kid happy and didn’t properly consider the bigger picture.
People buy their kids all kinds of things that are bad for them with the best intentions. We usually don’t conclude that they deserve debilitating debt as a consequence.
At the same time, all my coworkers leave their shit logged in all day at several computers walk around and use random computers logged in with other people’s stuff and they look at me like im an asshole because i put a lock screen password on my machine. (Im the one doing what’s actually written in the employee handbook of course).
So yeah, i yearn for the day they make a six figure fuck up because of shit like this.
Blame the dad
Honestly, it shouldn’t be legal to pull more than like 100 USD off a card without re-verifying the card holder. Fuck these companies that take your card once and have no fucking limit on how much they’ll pull from it without verifying it’s you.
Sure, you should have a limit on your card. That doesn’t make it okay for others to exploit you when you make an obvious mistake. Let’s not pretend these companies aren’t aware how much money they’re making off people’s kids spending more money than they’re allowed to.
I don’t disagree that the companies should have measures in place but the point still stands. Dad needs to be smarter. He did a lot wrong.
Yeah the guy fucked up. Id also say the company fucked up if they didn’t have the cards auto sending receipts from purchases somewhere as well. (Then again it could have been an option the father didn’t have on once again). Anytime I’ve had a company card for something I would turn on all the notifications and input everything into the ADP app or whatever system they are using right away. I wouldn’t even walk out of the store without taking a picture of the receipt to upload it to make sure if I lost thr receipt I wasnt going to be screwed. You’re spending money that isn’t yours, that shit will bite you.
I bought jewelry with a company card so my SO wouldn’t see it on the statement. Paid that off immediately, no cost to the company. My boss was fucking LIVID and chewed me out later. I still have no clue why it mattered but I never did that shit again.
Edit: Damn, the corporate bootlickers really came out of the woodwork for this one. No harm no foul but chew me out again boss.
It matters because accounting has to ledger expenses and balance books. Its a super pain when an employee makes a non work expense and then maybe uses cash to pay off instead of the intracompany accounts, because then the outgoing and incoming doesn’t zero out…usually needs a manual books adjustment to account for the discrepancies.
To add on to this: If your company is not tiny, then having properly managed accounts is literally a legal requirement in most countries and having people make random, not accounted for purchases raises questions.
Accounting is a big problem.
And you can say it was jewelry for your girlfriend - but realistically it could have been literally anything else. I’m not saying illegal dugs - but it sounds really shady and it puts the responsibility on the company.
With prior communication it might had been okay with your boss, or he would have lent you his personal card for this.Damn your drug dealer tales credit cards?? Fuckin righteous dude
It mattered because he could have fired you for cause on the spot, our entire legal/financial system is built on the assumption that you don’t mix business money with personal money. Your company accountant(s) had to write a paragraph explaining to the auditors how you made an innocent misclick mistake and company policy is very clear that they don’t do that, otherwise the auditors would have not signed your company’s financial statements.
Bunch of people explaining why it matters legally and financially, your only takeaway is they’re bootlickers. Yes, YTA.
I mean pretty much. This is some real drop in the bucket low level stuff so the over reaction here is surprising. Just for that Im gonna go steal some pens tomorrow too.
The perils of shitty parenting.
Edit: Goes way beyond shitty parenting. How did someone this stupid get a company card let alone one with a limit that high? It’s disturbing.
I remember my father complaining about his company card. Apparently the bank backing the card had some restriction that the maximum amount for an individual transaction could only be some percentage of the cards limit. For example purposes let’s say that’s 20%. He had to purchase stuff for $30-40K on occasion. Which means the cards limit had to be $150-200K.
Oh well, looks like it’s the company’s problem now since it’s their card. They should be more careful. Hope they have fun dealing with YT.
Anyway everyone needs to go to that kids minecraft YT channel, subscribe and hit the bell icon. Also sign up for his highest Patreon tier. Don’t forget to donate to dad’s legal fund.
And use your company card if you got one.
Dave said he entered the company card himself to buy Robux for his son, and it then sat saved on the Google account that also carries his work email, calendar, and files. Dave did not say why he used the company card for that purchase.
Well I don’t have much sympathy here. He used the company card to buy his son Robux. There was no reason to do this, he should have used his personal card. So maybe he thought he could skim a little money off the top for personal use and it ended up biting him in the ass.
Roblox keeps the kid occupied and thus makes dad more efficient at his job. It’s a legit expense.
don’t you typically have to confirm if you want to save a card to your account as well? like I get pop-ups every time I manually type in my card cause I don’t trust websites saving that info for more than I need it to. My parents specifically never saved their cards onto my sibs and my accounts to avoid frivolous spending. it’s an awful situation to be in, but the dad kinda reaped what he sowed here
Dave said he entered the company card himself to buy Robux for his son, and it then sat saved on the Google account that also carries his work email, calendar, and files. Dave did not say why he used the company card for that purchase.
Man steals from his employer, is surprised to get in trouble for it 🙄
Hey everyone found the bootlicker
This wouldn’t be any different if he worked for a cooperative.
now i kinda want to see his channel
i would not be that patient. props to that father.
Well hope it least help the campaign. Lol wow!
Time to sell the kid
20 years ago I read an article that stuck with me ever since … it detailed at the time that on average, whether you can afford it or not, it costs about $200,000 to raise a child to the age of 18.
So selling the kid would cut the parents losses over the 18 year period
Its a million, been a million since early 2000’s (source had kids early 2000’s) read about it back then- that’s over there lifetime 0-18. fuck outta here with anything less, plus god forbid you have to pay child support to a mother that refuses to work, but also not spend money you pay on said children. Source fuck family court
that can’t be right (assuming USD), the highest US number I can find is 800k per child in San Francisco, but otherwise the national average is 300k.
I mean… $10k a year for survival for one human? I guess that makes sense?
The article I read at the time mentioned that this was the average bare minimum … like a single unemployed parent doing their best to raise and keep a child alive and fed until they were 18.
The cost is higher if there are two parents paying for expenses … and even higher if the parents have any bit of wealth
It’s gettin’ boomer up in here.
It’s getting child-free, but still majorly indebted to credit card companies up in here.
very relevant username
Seems odd that he made a new ad account and bypassed the spending limits.
At max, unless you’re being invoiced by Google and have a line of credit, you can spend around $500/day. It’s a lot of money, but it would still take months to hit $100,000.
Irresponsible father gives his business credit card information to his son, is shocked by the results.
Google is insane about billing any random ass card you’ve ever used in any system adjacent to them. I had them bill a domain name fee to my fucking government travel card just because I’d set it up once to pay for a hotel or something. Completely not the card I’d put in to pay for the domain name - they just changed it on their own.
That’s not what happended here though. Dad deliberately entered his business card and handed control if it to a child…
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