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    12 days ago

    Wait what? Rapid policy change in response to gun violence?

    Good job Australia Austria!

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        11 days ago

        Beethoven being born in Germany and Hitler being born in Austria was one of those trivia facts I learned as a 12 year old — or thereabouts; I forget how old I was — that made me question everything. I was obviously, by definition, uneducated at that age but I had just sort of lumped “classical music=Vienna” and “Hitler=Germany.”

        It’s obviously an odd fact to blow a kid’s mind and there were many more such moments to come but, for some reason, that factoid was a very effective one on my journey to realizing I didn’t know shit. (A journey I’m still on, even on things I have a degree in or worked on. Nothing teaches you how much you don’t know like learning enough to realize you haven’t even scratched the surface.)

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      12 days ago

      America currently going: “la la la la la” while turning its back to the problem.

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      12 days ago

      Wow kneejerk pseudo-science enshrined into law because one person out of 10,000,000 used a gun to kill someone. Do you think if he had used a car instead you’d see a similar response? why or why not?

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        12 days ago

        Probably the most goddamn idiotic take I’ve fucking seen. And what makes this even funnier is your smug attitude.

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          11 days ago

          Kinda yes but no? There’s minimum standards for gun control in the EU and thus the “right to bear arms” countries (Austria, Czechia, Poland, Baltic states, Finland) regularly have work cut out for them when the framework gets tightened while the “may issue” and “don’t issue” countries are perpetually in overcompliance.

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        11 days ago

        Ooh, ooh! Pick me! It’s because transportation is infinitely more societally useful than punching imprecise holes in things in one of the most dangerous ways accessible to most individuals! There are lots of reasons to ban or limit the use of cars in various public places, but those types of attacks are a reason to install and use bollards.

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          11 days ago

          Agreed, so we should be building trains which are way faster, safer and environmentally friendly then cars if we actually care about saving lives.

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              11 days ago

              Which is a completely irrelevant point here

              So if the point isn’t to save lives, what is the point?

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                11 days ago

                The school shooting. Reading the article will help answer these types of questions. I’ll mute you for a while to give you time.

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        11 days ago

        You’re totally right, and this is supported the data! The USA has the least restrictive gun laws of any major developed country but has similar rates of gun violence as all other developed…oh wait, never mind, the USA has by far the highest gun violence rates of any major developed nation.

        Our per capita rate of gun violence is comparable to countries like Somalia, Iraq, and Haiti.

        And also, car deaths is a huge issue too, and we should restrict car ownership and encourage mass transit and related infrastructure. Making more of our cities pedestrian-only locations protected by bollards, would also make people even safer from both accidental and intentional car deaths.

        It’s also way better for the environment and thus, people’s long term health, leading to even higher life spans and better happiness.

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        10 days ago

        i started to respond but there are so many things wrong with your inane hypothetical i quit a couple paragraphs in. just fucking light up some neurons

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          10 days ago

          i started to respond but there are so many things wrong with your inane hypothetical i quit a couple paragraphs in. just fucking light up some neurons

          Yikes. It took you multiple paragraphs before you understood how goddamn reactionary the Austrian response is. And while you understand it’s wrong, you refuse to accept it. Liberal to the core. Please do not vote again for everyone’s sake.

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    11 days ago

    I’ll toss this on the mountain of proactive things other countries are doing that the U.S. isn’t.

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    10 days ago

    The thing is, this is mostly reactionary politics. They do this because it’s easy and they can say “see we did something, gib vote”.

    Instead phsychological care is being reduced, which would be way more valuable in the long term.

    I am not saying gun laws are bad, just that they don’t pose that much of a problem in Austria if it weren’t for psychological issues. Not to speak about alcohol, unrelated to the shooting but ffs thats an issue nobody touches because “culture”-_-. I just mention this because regulating this properly and/or providing psychogical care for alcohol problems, or even aknowledging that it IS a problem, would go way further in preventing harm and accidents.

    Not as interesting of an issue of course, no outrageous headlines to be made that don’t negatively impact politicians…

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    10 days ago

    I bet the kid was American /s

    I’m glad to see a country do more than ask pointlessly, “what else can we do?”

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    9 days ago

    Isn’t Austria’s military service age lower than 21?
    They can just join military and access guns there

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    11 days ago

    “serious psychology test”

    Until someone from a different political party comes in and turns it into a “political party loyalty test”

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      11 days ago

      Soooo, we then just go back to handing guns to anyone?

      Sorry, but with that attitude we can’t improve anything. How about we just keep it a psychology test?

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        10 days ago

        Do you think that the average person is a killer but the only thing that stops them are the tools they have available?