cross-posted from: https://quokk.au/post/5420798

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Israeli officials have signaled they do not intend to relinquish this territory. These areas, where the military has deployed, are considered “no-go zones” and Palestinians risk being shot if they approach.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      This is pretty much identical to South African apartheid and American First Nations reservation systems.

      Palestine is done. Nobody inside the territory has the capacity to survive, much less resist. Only a handful of minority groups and insurgent factions outside the territory care to defend them, and the police/military have declared open season on Palestinian liberation as a movement. The rest of the world seems content to allow the Holocaust to play out undeterred.

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    Israel became terrorist country financed by US tax payers, Ergo US tax payers are terrorist supporters.

    So this is why Bezos, Musk and company are not paying taxes, the refuse to support terrorists.

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    I’m curious to know why they chose to stop where they did. Is it a matter of “This is what we reckon we can hold”? Or is it “These areas are the most valuable so we want those”? Or “This is how much we reckon we can take before someone declares war”?

    Gaza isn’t even contiguous anymore. Where there was one territory, there are effectively now four. One big one, one small, one very small, one tiny. I can’t imagine the Israelis are going to allow people to move from one territory to the other so why did they split it up like that?

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      They can starve the population and take the area anyway so why continue fighting and gaining more and more bad press and investigation. Instead they’ll spend that time covering up their crimes and hiding the people they would have a hard time protecting for the moment.

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        So why not just take all of it? The world isn’t gonna do shit about it, so why bother with the splitting of Gaza up into unmanageable little chunks?

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          They’re much more manageable and Israel uses Palestinians as cheap labor, they’re keeping enough around to do the shitty jobs while they find anyone else willing to do it before they absorb the rest.

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          Maybe they are playing for gazans to finally ask for Gaza to be absorbed by Israel so they can claim it wasn’t genocide?

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    So is this like … concentrating… the people into a smaller area, like uh … camp?

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      This is closer to just standard imperialism, which Hitler also did. Evil? Yes, but a different kind of evil.

      Also I think Israel literally has a concentration camp, so if you want to make that comparison, it’s right there.

      Imperialism is horribly evil and it deserves to be called out by name. A part of the imperialist process is genocide, which is what we’re seeing here.

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      Cynical me can see Netanyahoo say “because of all the dead Palestinians, the area per person has actually gone up for the survivors.”

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    They don’t pay taxes because they are in control of the US. Wtf are you talking about? They 100% support Israel as long as there is money to be made

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          That vote is a. Contested and b. They haven’t had an election in the lifetime of (prewar) like 80% of their population was alive “they” didn’t make anyone a leader. “They” are mostly children of you look at demographics.

          You’re a bigot, you just wanted an excuse so you don’t feel as bad about it. I’ll bet money you’ve said something to the effect of “glassing” Iran, Iraq and/or Afghanistan as well, be honest how correct am I?

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            That’s a lot of excuses to justify support for a terrorist group.

            Sorry buddy Palestinians put them in power and tolerated them for decades. You can try to scrub history but they are reaping what they’ve sown for decades.

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              One man’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter. Like the ANC and Nelson Mandela, who was a worldwide wanted terrorist for decades.

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                Yeah no, Nelson Mandela didn’t sanction the kidnapping and killing of civilians.

                Fuck right off with your false analogies.

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                  Oh so Israel is terrorist as well, im glad we agree as Hamas was a Israeli project they’ve admitted to and netenyahu keeps getting busted talking to and handing over suitcases full of cash.

                  Fuck right off with your bullshit hedging, the country with a series of open air concentration camps isn’t going to win the morality fight.

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                  He did however sanction and plan dozens of bombings, and maintained contact with a militant arm of his organization that killed plenty of people.

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          Yes but it’s more complex than that. Israel did whatever they could to ensure hamas won election

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            Ohhhh nooossss Israel is responsible. Cry me a fucking river, Palastinians put them in power and kept then there.

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                Evidently your grasp of English is as weak as your grasp of international affairs.

                I’ll speak plainly so you can understand. There were no excuses in my statement . I was openly mocking you.

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                  I’ll speak plainly so you can understand.

                  Evidently your grasp of English is as weak as your grasp of international affairs.

                  There was an excuse in your statement . I am openly mocking you.

                  Yes but it’s more complex than that. Israel did whatever they could to ensure hamas won election

                  Ohhhh nooossss Israel is responsible.   Cry me a fucking river, Palastinians put them in power and kept then there.

                  That’s a lot of excuses to justify support for a terrorist group.

                  Try harder boo boo.

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                  There’s that excuse again genius. Similarly elections haven’t been held because Israel pays for them not to be, read a fucking newspaper.

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      Too lazy to check if actual Zionist or Indian larping as a Zionist lmao

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        I think Zionist because they are so stupid when it comes to genocide stuff.

        Here is one of their comments found in their profile:

        Any individual who make blanket comments about whole sections of society will loose my respect pretty quickly.

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      Sounds like they are on the tail end of the find out phase.

      What, including the 10,000+ children killed so far by Israel? Yeah I’m sure they were asking for it. Definitely a proportional response. GTFO

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        Weird how you seem to go straight to Hitler. It’s just odd to have someone go there so quickly. You seem to have some kind of weird kink maybe?

        Quick question, do you think Hamas attacking Israel by surprise a slaughtering and kidnapping civilians was justified?

        Do you really think what happened to Shani Louk was justified?

        https://youtu.be/7vB0UPUT4P4

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          It’s really not a weird comparison. The deep irony of the situation - that the group that was most famously a victim of the Nazi Holocaust is responsible for perpetuating comparable modern day atrocities - make it almost unavoidable

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            It is when that is the very first argument you make.

            “Buh butt NAZIS”

            Weak as shit.

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              Can’t quite tell if you’re an arsehole troll who finds upsetting people to be fun, or an arsehole who genuinely thinks genocide is ok sometimes… 🤔

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              Is there some other genocidal regime you would prefer to compare your favorite genocidal government to?

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          Lol you know Israel funded Hamas specifically from preventing Palestine from having a united government?

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              And you’re aware that if a foreign government throws enough marketing money at a population they can get them to for anyone right? Just ask Trump.

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      And 6 months ago, you were arguing that we have to keep arming Israel because they’re such an important ally to the US. Why aren’t you saying that anymore?