The Trump administration’s support for these claims, while stopping other new refugee arrivals, has inflamed uncomfortable conversations about how far racial reconciliation still has to go, three decades after the end of white minority rule.
The US president’s offer was a “godsend”, said Kyle, now a salesman working remotely for an overseas company: “I’ve got white children, they’re at the bottom of the hiring list here. So, there is no future for them. And the sad thing is they don’t even know what apartheid is.”
White Afrikaner governments racially segregated every aspect of life from relationships to where people were allowed to live during apartheid, repressing South Africa’s Black majority while keeping the white minority safe and much better off.
South Africa remains deeply unequal, more than 30 years since the system ended. The black South African unemployment rate is 46.1%, for example, compared with 9.2% for white people.
USA can take all the racists and the rest of us will take the American refugees. Then we can finish the wall from the outside.
Why would I want these ultra racist slavers to come here when the economy is tanking so they can buy up shit cheap?
You think these losers are going to be buying anything ?
We have these arseholes in Australia and they are barely capable of cleaning bogs.
I suspect that Trump offering asylum to Afrikaners has more to do with USA being pissed at SA for the Gaza case than him thinking there is a “South African Genocide”. He’s just trying to stir the pot but generally South Africans don’t take this seriously. Some people on here though…
It has added some new jokes at the braai. Also spawned arguments about who wants Elon the least.
When a major political party has rallies with chants such as “shoot to kill, kill the Boer, kill the farmer”…
I’d say refugee status is appropriate.
You take them then. They are absolute pigs.
Happily, my best neighbors are from SA. I also dated a girl from SA.
You can have all the folks who chant death to the boar, death to the farmer. I’m sure you and that energy will mix well.
There aren’t white farm workers in South Africa. Only black Africans are doing farm labor. So who is the ‘white farmer’? What does it mean? It’s the farm owner who gets all the product of the African farm labor and gives next to none of it to the farm laborers. Don’t try and condemn something you don’t understand.
A major political party with thousands of followers threatening to kill you is pretty simple understand.
We have got to revoke their refugee status after this administration. This isn’t remotely valid claims.
If there even is an “after this administration”, that is. I have my doubts tbh…
https://erinfongstudio.com/products/free-digital-download-of-the-fight-fascism-zine or “40 ways to fight fascism” or “don’t just do nothing” are good zines about how we can ensure there isan “after this administration”
You still have to give all your info to download the free zine
You have to give info, it doesn’t have to be yours.
I’ve got white children, they’re at the bottom of the hiring list here. So, there is no future for them. And the sad thing is they don’t even know what apartheid is.
If your children are old enough to work, and they don’t even know about your country’s most pressing issue that only ended like 30 years ago, then no wonder they’re at the bottom of the hiring list.
They’re ignorant fucks! Lol
I mean, that’s probably not what they’re implying.
I read that as “when my kids who have never experienced the reality of apartheid grow up, they will be discriminated against because they are white”
The article is FULL of little bits like that to make them sound like reasonable people just trying to live. Thankfully the article also provides contrary evidence: 9.2% unemployment rate.
Rich afrikaners who are upset apartheid is gone and they now have to be treated like normal people bitching about how they now have to actually earn jobs instead of being handed one for being white, and they still have the majority of jobs.
imo, you read that with a positive interpretation.
If they were saying that, they should’ve said that their kids “never experienced it” or “never participated in it” or “didn’t live through it”.
But instead, they said their kids “don’t know what apartheid is”.
If they misspoke, fine. But I don’t know with certainty that they meant what you said. I think they might’ve meant what they said.
if an American conservative said “My kids are bottom of the college acceptance lists due to affirmative action; it’s bullshit, they don’t even know what slavery is,” what age would you infer that their children are?
Where are you going with this?
Do you think it’s realistic and reasonable that college aged work seeking kids living in America (or South Africa) just haven’t been exposed to the topic is slavery (or apartheid)?
They know what it is, historically.
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Yes.
Japan doesn’t tend to teach its children about the atrocities that Japan committed in the past century.
China is in a similar boat.
Depending on the province, school board, and even teacher, Canada doesn’t always do a good job of teaching its children about the residential schools and related atrocities committed against the indigenous peoples of the land.
So yeah. I think it’s possible that people old enough to work and be looking for jobs (which can be as young as 14 where I live) are ignorant to the atrocities their countries committed.
The USA is actually surprisingly halfway decent at teaching kids about the atrocities committed against Black people, from my perspective. There is still a long way to go, but at least kids grow up knowing that many Americans owned slaves and that it’s wrong to own slaves. Some regions less-so than others, but still, lol
There’s a big difference between understanding and relating to the victims of atrocities, and simply not knowing about historic events.
They aren’t ignorant, you are whitewashing them and stripping them of agency. They know about the racist history that they benefit from greatly! The education system in South Africa covers the rise, implementation, and fall of apartheid in significant detail.
What are you arguing about? It could have taken you less time to look up how seriously apartheid is taken in South Africa instead of listing a bunch of irrelevant countries that don’t take seriously irrelevant crimes, what are you doing?
just trying to help you understand our reading of the guy’s remark.
I’d infer that the children are of the age where they’d be applying to college in your scenario.
If they’re not, then whoever said that isn’t speaking from experience, but from imagination.
I mean… he didn’t say they are at the bottom because they are white.
Maybe they are at the bottom of the list because they are dumb as rocks, and happen to be white. And he knows being dumb in America is no impediment, so he wants the asylum.
It’s absolutely implied by his phrasing, “I’ve got white children, they’re at the bottom of the hiring list here.”
This is explicitly stating that white children are at the bottom of the hiring list in the USA. The only identifier he gave of his children is that they’re white, and that is enough to put them at the bottom of the hiring list ‘here [USA]’.
