• comfy@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      On the other hand, this isn’t exactly news to them. Countries outside of the Western world and Asian neighbors have been siding with China over the US for a while now, probably due to all the invasions and coups.

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        Countries outside of the Western world and Asian neighbors have been siding with China over the US for a while now, probably due to all the invasions and coups.

        And the targeted application of soft power.

        A game which the US also used to play, but has recently decided to rapidly abandon.

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        This is a pretty simplistic take. A western tankie take if you will.

        Many countries in Asia have suffered from invasions and conflicts with China.

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          Consider more recent history, since 2000 what countries have China invaded?

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            China has conflicts with countries like India and Philippines. China backs the brutal junta in Myanmar. China invaded Hong Kong.

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              China invaded Hong Kong

              lol, what? the british just returned lands they stole, after a century’s worth of exploitaition

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          Many countries in Asia have suffered from invasions and conflicts with China.

          Yes, that’s a reason why some don’t side with China.

          Africa and the Middle East and South America and other Asian countries didn’t have conflicts with China (in fact, they’re typically invaded by European countries and/or the US) and so have tended to side with China.

          I don’t see where we’re disagreeing or how what I said was any more simplistic than your reply.

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            Your post implied that all countries outside of the west sided with China when this is clearly not true. I am so adamant about the because I have first hand experience with this.

            Even in Africa there is a lot of pushback among the population (not necessarily the elites) against Chinese imperialism. Sri Lanka is another example where there is a measures of opposition to jingoistic Chinese meddling.

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              Your post implied that all countries outside of the west sided with China when this is clearly not true.

              I didn’t mean to imply all countries, and it’s my mistake for phrasing it like that, sorry.

              Even in Africa there is a lot of pushback among the population (not necessarily the elites) against Chinese imperialism. Sri Lanka is another example where there is a measures of opposition to jingoistic Chinese meddling.

              That’s true. It’s also important to note, at least with Africa, that there is also pushback against ongoing European imperialism, so when it comes to a “do you prefer US or China more” situation like OP, they might still pick one of them while also giving pushback.