No evidence has been seen that a genocide is occurring in Gaza or that women and children were targeted by the IDF, UK government lawyers have claimed, as a high court case opened into the handling of arms exports controls to Israel.

They also suggested there was no obligation placed on the UK to make other states comply with international humanitarian law but only to ensure that no breach occured within its jurisdiction.

The government is seeking to defend itself in a judicial review brought over allegations that it acted unlawfully in continuing to sell F-35 parts and components to a global pool, even though some of those components might be used by Israel in Gaza in a way that the government regards as a breach of international law.

Much of the case will turn on the extent to which international law places obligations in domestic law.

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    As they walk over the dead bodies. Nothing to see here. Business as usual.

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      Business as usual.

      Well, by the standards of the British Empire that could very well be considered true.

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      Yes. These guys have a vested interest in their client selling F-35 parts, so they will try to paint white as black.

      The interesting part will be whether the court accepts their reasoning.

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        “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!” - Upton Sinclair

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    Israel is trying to limit incidental harm to women and children? THEY ARE STARVING THE FUCKING REGION!

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      No no, you see, it’s a targeted starvation, they are only cutting power, medicine, water and food to the men… /s

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    Defense lawyers are ethically obligated to plead for their clients; just as Otto Stahmer denied overwhelming evidence to argue for Hermann Göring’s acquittal, despite his documented role as a chief architect of the Holocaust. Meanwhile, England acts as a co-belligerent in Palestine, supplying arms to Israel, vetoing ceasefire efforts, and challenging the ICC’s jurisdiction over crimes against humanity. Its refusal to recognize genocide follows a familiar pattern: admission would compel accountability for its own complicity.

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    WTF? Even our government (Denmark) foreign minister is alarmed by what Israel is doing in Gaza, and he is traditionally very pro Israel!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide

    According to a United Nations Special Committee,[37] Amnesty International, and other experts and human rights organisations, Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian people

    This is so widely reported and acknowledged the only way to ignore it is extreme bias or more likely corruption.

    It is also absolutely clear that Israel is committing war crimes regularly, there is zero doubt t about it, and the political leadership in Israel is wanted criminals because of it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Israeli_leaders

    On 21 November 2024, following an investigation of war crimes and crimes against humanity, the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued arrest warrants for two senior Israeli officials, Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, and Yoav Gallant, the former Minister of Defense of Israel,

    Please UK, don’t go as corrupt malignant and stupid on us as USA. 🙏

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        Brexit was bad, but hopefully we can still work closely together. UK is still finding their footing after Brexit.
        USA is a different more fundamental break of trust, which I would hate to see repeated with UK.
        In most EU countries USA is now more unpopular than China!

        UK is on a route where they are balancing EU and USA against each other, while completely forgetting that it was not EU that wanted the break, and EU is still their friend, and USA is not. just look how USA is treating Canada! It’s insane that UK is looking towards USA considering how unfriendly USA has become even to their closest ally!

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      Yup Israel has always had a free pass cause they’re basically the only ally of west in broken and dangerous middle east.

      Thats why Saudi Arabia is so fascinating - if they drag middle east out of swamp of incompetence they could make Israel redundant and take away its free pass.

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        if they drag middle east out of swamp of incompetence they could make Israel redundant and take away its free pass.

        Is that supposed to be some kind of joke?

        Saudi Arabia is the MOST incompetent of the whole bunch!

        It just doesn’t matter because they literally have more money than God.

        They’re so ultra-inbred incompetent that they literally founded, funded and armed a terrorist group that made their first and foremost goal the fall of Saudi Arabia under an Islamic caliphate.

        They learned to stay out of wars decades ago, because they’re too mentally damaged to fight them.

        I mean, until they tried to genocide Yemen, and of course got their asses handed to them by unarmed goat-herders who are still infinitely less trash.

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        They already have that free pass, they just choose to use it to murder journalists, gays, aposthates and opress women, immigrants, non-muslims and political adversaries.

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          I said absolutely nothing about free pass and Saudi Arabia - where are you getting that?

          My point being is that Saudis connecting middle east to the west could make Israel redundant and too expensive to support. Is that clearer? There’s 0 opinions in this comment just a geopolitical observation.

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            I said absolutely nothing about free pass and Saudi Arabia - where are you getting that?

            Well, absolutely nothing…

            Thats why Saudi Arabia is so fascinating - if they drag middle east out of swamp of incompetence they could make Israel redundant and take away its free pass.

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              Take away Israel’s free pass not take over. Jesus dude you have reading comprehension of a 3rd grader and that’s generous.

              Take away does not mean “steal” or “take over”. Just like when your mom takes away your dinosaur figurines before dinner she’s not really playing out t-rex vs stegosaurus battles herself right?

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                If I take away your phone, who has your phone? Maybe you should write clearer and be a bit more respectful, not jumping to insults right away.

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                  Maybe you should take your advice and work on your reading comprehension before jumping to conclusions and trying to gaslight people. Bye

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    There’s no evidence there are trees in the forest.

    There’s no evidence the earth is round.

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    I can show them ttlhe videos I’ve seen of fathers dragging the broken bodies of their children from burning rubble if they need evidence. Fucking ghouls.

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    Of course there’s genocide. Palestine has been fighting for their homes since I was born. It’s so tragic

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    When I read through the American report, it detailed genocide by Israel. It painted a horrific picture with Israel holding up or “losing” food and medicine in order to starve civilians.

    The report concluded with “There is no genocide.”

    It’s what happens when there’s a genocide but you decide there isn’t one, but you still need to describe the genocide.