AFAICT, if a Netflix account owner sets up a VPN for their household, then anyone sharing the account who routes their Netflix traffic through that VPN would appear to be accessing Netflix from that household’s WAN IP address.
Is anyone doing this? Is it really that simple or are there more challenges?
EDIT: We get it, you like torrenting. Let’s keep comments on topic folks.
No, but I use a VPN to download movies from various sites. No reason to pay for Netflix.
This is the way.
Not using vpn but using mail filter fwd. Mails from netflix with codes are fwd to all using the shared account. So if you need to reactivate a device you request a device code and get it in the mail.
If you even get the option for the code. For some reason my TV will never do it.
Smart, thanks for the interesting idea.
EDIT: We get it, you like torrenting. Let’s keep comments on topic folks.
To be fair, you posted in the self-hosted community discussing an Issue for proprietary software.
To answer your question, which others have already done, yes your VPN tunnel will share the same IP as your household so long as it’s setup properly.
Just a stupid question - Is self-hosting (and this forum) only applies to open source products?
An issue which I aim to resolve using a self-hosted VPN.
I do live at 3 locations in 2 countries for work reasons and have a wireguard VPN server at my primary home that acts as a gateway for all my traffic, not only because of streaming but also because my bank locked me out for suspicious behavior before. The routers at locations 2 and 3 are sending all their traffic to my primary home.
No issues with this setup, I can only recommend it. I also have a centralized NAS this way and all my home assistant instances are interconnected.
In terms of bank, I recommend switching to one that won’t block you for travelling, like Revolut
What hardware do you use to avoid slowdowns?
I have 10 GBit Fiber :)
That’s a pretty good solution I suppose.
Yes it works. It really is that simple!
If you pay for something to not abide by it’s rules, why do it?
It’s a messed up logic I really do not understand.
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I pay for Spotify for several reasons :
- Unlike Netflix & co. for movies/shows, the catalog size is satisfying on Spotify & co. for music ;
- Remote playback and volume control over Internet (branded “Connect”) ;
- Contributing to creator revenue.
- Voice assistant compatibility ;
Yet, I use a family subscription, which I share with strangers, because Spotify increase their prices often, and my wallet doesn’t like that.
Fun fact : when Spotify realizes someone’s doing that and prevents new people from joining (which only happens when people join and leave a lot), creating a new account with a new family subscription (even with the same IP address, home address, username and bank card) and moving everyone to it works fine.
I pay for the streaming services to fund the development and production of the shows I enjoy watching.
I torrent the content for my convenience.
It’s a classic “tragedy of the commons” scenario. I ask myself what would happen if nobody paid and everybody pirated.
No shade if that’s your choice, just recognize that you’re relying on all the people who do pay to keep the system going.
I see it differently. The service (as in content and delivery) should make me want to pay.
I’m all for paying the creators.
But, I do want to pay. I want to support the artists who create the shows and movies that I enjoy. I want people to be able to earn a living in the creative arts.
I don’t think anyone is debating that, as in, of course everyone can relate and do that, if possible.
But the latter detail is the issue. Sometimes the middle man screws up so badly that even then it does not matter.
If you need to use a VPN to get your shows: it’s impossible in a legal, contract respecting way to get your content.
I considered setting up a Pi for WireGuard at my mom’s house (her router doesn’t support VPN), so we could share subscriptions still, but decided it wasn’t worth the hassle and risk that they would start VPN detecting from the client: could just imagine them sending her emails about it that would confuse her lol
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Yeah.
Netflix’s restrictions are not based on IP address. That would be an incredibly unreliable way of determining a location
They’re looking at the network you’re connected to. Exactly what they’re looking for is not public
How can I spoof EVERYTHING to be identical in all locations using my openwrt routers ? Do they look at my GPS data, or the name and addresses of other wifi and bluetooth devices ? Do they check my traceroute between my device and their servers ?
You don’t have to spoof everything. If you setup a wireguard server on your router then, then VPN into that then you’ll be on the actual network and Netflix cannot tell the difference.
Netflix has come out and said they don’t use GPS. I cannot authoritatively say they don’t traceroute or use other signals, but the wireguard tunnel works so you can only assume they do not.
I was wondering because if they use wifi & bluetooth discovery, then a VPN isn’t going to help,. one phone will see a certain bunch of your neighbour’s SSIDs while another phone will see other. Also A-GPS is not technically GPS, it is cell tower triangulation, the name of your cell towers and in what quadrant they’re seeing your phone (that’s how they caught Mitnick).
Also the wireguard VPN acts as a L3 separation, so you still see on your L2 segment, different MACs and different addresses in the broadcast traffic.
I imagine that Netflix would use an heuristics based machine learning system, so while not one particular aspect would out you as part of a different household, an inventory of signals might make them suspect you “enough” that they start harassing you with 2 factor authentications invalidating your session cookies. Not exactly expulsing you from the service but just annoying enough that most will prefer to cough up a few more bucks for a separate account. And of course, as their needs to supplemental revenue increases, they’ll be able to tweedle your knobs until they get just the perfect amount of annoyance to convert “freeloaders” into paying customers rather than defectors or pirates.
This never worked for me. It would always detect my VPN and alarm out. Even when I was logged in from my own country. If it was on, I was locked out.
I use a third party VPN without any issues (USA)
