Canada should give Trump the Order of Canada for unifying the country. Do it.
Having a criminal history would likely make him ineligible.
There’s no outright rule against it but several people have been removed from the order for committing crimes.
Felons aren’t allowed in Canada
Really proud of Canada not going down the same path my dumb ass country did
Hopefully Australia follows suit, as we have our own Temu Trump in opposition coming into our election.
It wasn’t by a large margin… Canadians are turning fascist just like a lot of other countries.
I’m hoping the margin was tight because most people, even the ones who voted liberal, held their nose as they did it. We don’t like a party being in charge for this long, but the alternative is worse and worse every election. Pierre poilievre was however the worst and most dickish conservative I’ve seen in a while, so I hate how close this was.
Both Jason Kenney and Andrew Scheer, the two prior Conserrvative leaders, also completely blew their chances of winning by relying on the rightwing outrage pipeline and by being completely unlikable as a human beings.
Side story, I worked in government and received an MP complaint against me by a client, and the MP was Jason Kenney. I had to talk to him a bit everyday for a week or so, and he came off as incredibly stupid. Blew my mind a year later when he was on a ballot lol.
I was asked by a conservative volunteer why I wasn’t voting Con, I told him to write it down for the higher ups “I will never vote for a candidate who makes up cute little trump style nicknames for his opponents like carbon tax carney, and that any politician who rallies against woke culture has brain worms”
Yes, we narrowly avoided going down the Trump route this time, but I don’t find this picture particularly encouraging (NDP, Green and BQ are the three most progressive parties):
Source: National Post
It’s not straightforward to understand that, since this is a chart of seats not votes, and you can get weird effects with first-past-the-post and strategic voting, but it certainly looks like the electorate is moving rightwards at the expense of progressives.
Maybe the left is realizing that they are fighting for really critical human rights, their autonomy and their country, so it’s time to stop splitting the vote among marginal left wing parties?
I don’t think the answer to the corrupting influence of America’s rotting republic is to become a two party system.
What’s the answer?
Electoral reform would be a good start. Ranked Choice isn’t perfect, but it’s easy to implement and much better than our current system, asvwe build appetite for a truly progressive voting method.
But splitting the vote isn’t an issue with proportional representation is it? If the libs lose one seat to the greens that’s still one seat not occupied by the cons.
Certainly there’s a lot of strategic voting going on. But you don’t see the Liberal (centrist) seat count increasing as the NDP goes down: the gains are all with the Conservatives. If it were a matter of progressives deciding to just consolidate with Liberals, you’d expect to see the Liberal seat count go up as the smaller parties went down. To me this suggests either that some people are flipping directly from left to right or that there is a general rightwards drift, with right-wing Liberals going over to Conservatives and left-wing strategic voters filling in some of the gap they leave for the Liberals. In either case it’s concerning that when the Conservatives fielded their most far-right leader so far, their share of the seats went up.
In either case it’s concerning that when the Conservatives fielded their most far-right leader so far, their share of the seats went up.
It’s not surprising at all, the 2 conservative parties in Germany are the most far-right and second most far-right parties. They host politicians who are grandsons and granddaughters of real Nazi SS officers (like the leader of the AfD: Alice Weidel, her grandpa was directly responsible for thousands of civilian deaths as military judge and prosecuter and later chief military judge for Adolf fucking Hitler. They copy their talking points one to one and would love to see people dissappear, who are not looking like them. Conservatives, for the most part, are atrociously far-right.
On what planet is the BQ (bloq quebecois) a progressive party? NDP and green for sure.
Bloc are literally a Quebec only nationalist/separatist. The cons are angry at them because they “stole” a bunch of their Quebec voters/seats. If that’s your target audience you aren’t on the progressive end of the spectrum.
In the policies section of the page you link, there are a number of positions that are typically associated with “progressive” politics.
And a broken clock is right twice a day. Just because a couple policies from a party are progressive doesn’t overwrite the fact that their founding tenants are hyper nationalistic (if you count Quebec as an independent nation).
Honestley, I was going to vote conservative, even after Trump. And then Pollievre went into third gear with Woke Derangement Syndrome, the guy was having unhinged rants. Couldn’t get a paragraph out without mentioning woke. Ask him to define it, and he’d either PP.EXE stop responding, or he’d fly off the handle with pre-programmed slogans.
Stupid people on both sides of the race. But that was what turned me.
I’m curious, what attracted you to the Conservatives prior to the Maple-MAGA movement?
the last 4 elections I’d voted L > C > C > L
Im a moderate. I thought that the Trudeau Liberals had gone too far left back during the Scheer and Otoole days. Come this time around, I just lost any confidence I had in the Conservative party because they built their identity on “we’re not the liberals”. and failed to convince me they werent just going to kowtow to American Corpo-Fascist interests.
But if you would have asked me about specific policies that irked me to turn Conservative during the past … its been a long time, I’d probably just point to specific times and incidents over the gun policy, immigration, corruption with the SNC lavalin scandal, and maybe foreign policy. I live in a very ignorant and uneducated town in a NS riding that had been pretty hardcore conservative the last 2-3 elections, and my peers probably played a hand in influencing my issues. I thought our riding was solidly going to remain Conservative, CTV projected Cons won, but several hours later they reversed it and Libs have apparentley won it.
Foreign Policy has always been a major “issue” of mine too, Until 2025 when we were faced with the nonzero possibility of actual aggression and conflict with America, the biggest thing that would influence my vote was how seriously the party was going to take the issue of us being more or less, de-facto at war with Russia, Because the “shadow” World War III is something that in my mind took precedent.
Electoral Reform will be passed this time… right?
Of course it will … hahahahaha
It was not in the platform. I’ll settle for staying sovereign, maybe we can clean up FPTP later.
Meirdas Touch once again. The orange shit stain backs a Con and all voters take that as a sign that the person is a piece of shit and votes opposite.
Sometimes it works nicely.
Top Poilievre defense he did use a lot of Trump’s talking points and techniques. Branding himself as Trump light.
He showed who he was, and people believed him, as they should.
Temu Trump
this outcome has less to do with trump’s actions, and more to do with how the conservatives behaved in spite of those actions.
I think enough people were like me, ready to vote conservative, but then lost faith in the party since they didnt really seem to have a plan on anything once trudeau was gone early. Pollievre’s stock tanked once people saw that Trudeau was gone, and what was happening in the world
Genuine question, what initially led you to wanting to vote conservative and what could they have run on for you to have stuck with then?
Explain how they gained more seats then.
The conservatives barely lost because the progressives and the BQ voters cut their legs off to hoist up the liberals.
We’ll see if the liberals take Quebec for granted like NDP did after Layton.
That’ll be important. We’ll also see how Canadians react to the atrocities the USA will commit in the next 4 years too however.
I cannot wait to see how the Trump admin will spin this. Either that or they have a meltdown and immediately call it a rigged election. Bonus points if he tells Canadians to storm their capital.
I’ll be a little surprised if he addresses it more than a passing comment - the US conservative population doesn’t actually give a shit about canada (unless they’re told to be mad about it for some specific scapegoaty reason, but they’ll just forget. Like they’ve all forgotten about the lumber issues, or eggs, or how ‘canada is killing the US garment industry’ that one was cute…). At this point he’s got enough other things to distract them with, so why waste his very limited attention span on something he’s declared a solved issue?
There should be a bingo sheet.
Please, I am begging you, do not make this sheet. Right wing media will pick up on it, the golden one will catch wind of it, and it will become an achievement checklist. Please do not.
They are 100% going to say our election was rigged, and our idiots are going to believe them.
excerpt of facebook comments Ive seen since last night
- “this country is a disgrace”
- " sad day for canada"
- “fucking rigged!”
- “west time to become 51st state”
- “alberta saskatchewan manitoba 51st state of USA!”
- “time to secede”
- “trump will save alberta”
- " insert conspiracy here already picked their candidate, our votes dont count"
- “time to leave”
- accusations of Chinese meddling
- accusaions of European meddling
- accusations of Globalist meddling
Club your idiots with baseball bats. Or cricket bats. Or whatever bats you use up there.
Lacrosse and hockey sticks.
Finally something to celebrate in this general vicinity. Congratulations, Canada.
Fuck man, I wish I could afford move to Canada right now.
No one can afford to move to Canada. Our housing prices are stupid.
No different in America, and corporations are buying up homes so they can jack the prices up even higher. MAGA wants a population of renters so that they can control us by threatening us with homelessness.
The only thing I didn’t like about the liberals is the needless gun control they enact that basically banned almost all semi-auto rifles and halted new sales on handguns.
Of course I want them to fucking solve the housing crisis. Holy shit! Finding a place to stay is insane. They better do that at least.
Lets be honest, hand guns were pretty much banned before. Nobody wants to call the cops twice every time they go shooting.
No they were not. And you didn’t need to call the cops to go to the shooting range, it is included in the RPAL.
I’m pretty sure if you were moving the gun, you had to call it in.
https://rcmp.ca/en/firearms/firearms-safety-training-transport-and-storage/authorization-transport
Changes to automatic Authorizations to Transport restricted and prohibited firearms were brought into force on July 7, 2021. This change now requires licenced owners of registered firearms to obtain an Authorizations to Transport from the provincial or territorial Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) in order to transport a restricted or prohibited firearm** to any place other than to:**
a. an approved shooting club or shooting range within the owner’s province of residence, or
b. to the firearm’s place of storage after purchase.
Oh, okay. Everyone here just shoots on crown land, so I missed that.
You cannot shoot a restricted anywhere other than an approved shooting range.
Non-restricted weapons have very little control in Canada. This is why a lot of people were pissed at the constant addition of more and more guns. Guns that were non-restricted suddenly became prohibited. These kinds of sweeping bans are not good. Hell we could do away with a lot of bans in canada but just keep the licensing scheme. That is working well enough. There is simply no need to ban semi-autos at all.
I was going to do a deep dive into the legislation to figure out WTF I was remembering here, but it’s been kicking around my inbox for a full month now, so I think I have to give up on that.
I don’t think I ever laid eyes on one myself, but I did talk to shooting buddies who bought a restricted and then regretted it. I guess it’s possible they were just exaggerating, but there definitely was something about having to call movements in.
The legislation we have here does make no sense, although that can cut both ways if you want to own something weird. I never got the PAL myself but I’ve thought about getting a specific kind of blackpowder musket that would be banned in the 'states.
I wish the reaction to Trump would fuel the left-liberals/social libertarians in Germany. Instead, a quarter of the populace wants to vote for nazis. So I wish I’d live in Canada or some other queer friendly nation that isn’t being dominated by the far right right now.
We almost went far right too. Our conservatives aren’t nazis but if they won this one we would be following Germany’s footsteps
Also Germany is likely more queer friendly than Canada lol
According to international orgs, Canada is more queer friendly in both public sentiment and legally. Just because violence isnt too common doesn’t mean there is no discrimination. As an androgynous presenting person 50% of the time, I have been verbally assaulted plenty of times both by far right and MLs in Germany.
Ever been to Canada? You’d be welcomed in Vancouver Calgary Toronto Montreal but go to a smaller place and you’d be in for a rough time
Some in Germany. Though there are even larger cities that aren’t very queer friendly in Germany, especially in the east.
One anecdote: Trans people do exist in rural Canada. The woman who sold me tires outside Saskatoon was I’m-pretty-sure-maybe-definitely trans and gave every appearance of getting along fine with her coworkers.
I can’t speak to her quality of life generally but anyway nobody has chased her off to Vancouver yet. I would imagine tire shops are probably on the worse end for harassment so if Saskatoon was hell on earth for trans people she probably wouldn’t pick a tire shop to work at.
Because the “left liberals” in Germany are also Nazis arguing that Israel is allowed to kill civilians in Gaza.
Ironically, Trudeau hanging around for a long as he did may have saved Canada. If this election had happened in the middle of last year, the Conservatives would have probably won and combined with Trump, it would have been a disaster. Possibly the smartest/luckiest thing he has ever done.
At the end of the day it all comes down to the role of the dice.
The cherry on top:
You can predict what likely happens next: more neoliberal policies and degradation of quality of life. In one of the next election the fascists take over Canada. They never learn.
Mark “100 million by 2100” Carney
Kay? If the infrastructure is there what does it matter?
Narrator: the infrastructure was not there
Voted liberal, ndp, and green my whole life btw, and spent a decade as a public servant; im not a hate filled person who shits on immigrants, I just want responsible immigration policy, and McKinsey Consulting is evil.
Not there in 75 years? You must be clairvoyant.
The Canadian population rose by almost 20% in the last 5 years. The infrastructure we currently have was not ready for irresponsible immigration policy, and these things need to be done in coordination. I can’t predict the future, but I’m sayin’ my political concerns lie in this decade, not the next century.
Bad immigration policy also fuels distain towards immigrants, and it bolsters people like Pierre Pollivre, and I think we probably both agree that’s a bad thing
and it bolsters people like Pierre Pollivre, and I think we probably both agree that’s a bad thing
Yes
And you’re right to say we have housing issues. Getting rid of rent control was a poor choice in ontario. Corporate landlords are another. We have many vacant homes in Canada that should be filled. There are many things that need to change, and I am hopeful that these changes can be made before canada had 100 million in population
Trump’s truculence has infuriated Canadians
That is a 100% new word to me. 😐
