Finalnd is a NATO member. Russia ain’t fucking with NATO
They are “fucking with” NATO, historically, but not attack. Lots of “im not touching you im not touching you” on the borders and north sea. Military submarines where they are not supposed to be. Sudden declarations of artillery practice in international waters causing ship travel to reroute, then not actually doing practice…
This needs to be said over and over - Russia is and has been at war with NATO for over a decade and NATO doesn’t seem to even realize it.
At war for over a decade is a bit of a stretch.
The most direct confrontation was Turkiye shooting down Russian jets that flew into their airspace when bombing in Syria about ten years ago. During Azerbaidschans attacks on Armenia both NATO and Russia made sure to not get into direct contact. Nothing came out of it directly. The sabotages in Europe that are organized by Russia have been a thing since 2022, maybe late 2021 unless i missed some.
Depends on your definition of ‘war’. They’ve definitely been in rightist America’s ear about abandoning NATO since 2016.
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So is the US in Europe, South America, Middle East, Israel in all of the West, EU countries in Africa, China all over the world…
Trying to influence domestic policies in other countries is shitty, but it isnt war. Otherwise we are already in WW3 since many years.
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Is there a non hostile influence by foreign powers on domestic policies?
And by this logic we are already in World War III. Seems pretty calm still all things considered…
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Well, we might find out soon enough.
Yeah no. Even if the United States sits out on it’s dumb fat orange ass, Russia is not likely looking to pick an active fight with all of Europe when it’s disinformation warfare can disassemble Europe from the inside out, given enough time.
An active fight? Yeah, that’s not going to happen. A passive one, though? Might be an option. Carlo Masala recently published his new book If Russia wins: a scenario (No English translation yet). In it, he draws up a scenario where Russia, after defeating Ukraine, annexes a small Estonian town to test NATO’s resolve in the face of a limited Russian aggression. He bases this scenario on the German Re-occupation of the Rhineland, during which German troops had they faced any serious resistance by allied forces would have had to retreat. In the book NATO members are divided and dismiss the Estonians request for help under Article 5.
If even a cm of NATO is invaded and not acted on the alliance is worthless. For each nations safety, they must act or be defenceless going forward.
There is zero chance Russia is ever getting away with that, especially after burning all their bridges in Ukraine.
There is zero chance Russia is ever getting away with that
Is there? Given the rather reluctant support of Ukraine, which is about just enough to keep them in the fight, I’m afraid that at least some NATO members would rather give away a symbolic chunk of land than start a military confrontation. And yes, that would be the end of NATO.
An active fight? Yeah, that’s not going to happen.
You don’t understand russian culture and mentality. Although in your defence, this is relatively common.
How so?
They would very much be willing to conquer the Baltic nations if the opportunity shows itself. The russians are obsessed with colonizing the baltics.
The author that you referred to, does he speak russian? Estonian? Ukrainian? I am genuinely curious.
They would very much be willing to conquer the Baltic nations if the opportunity shows itself.
I very much understand that but there is no such opportunity for an all out conquest until NATO is no more.
The author that you referred to, does he speak russian? Estonian? Ukrainian?
I don’t know.
Carlo Masala is German. Don’t know if he speaks other languages.
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Disinformation warfare doesn’t keep a wartime economy afloat.
If they do it wouldn’t be Finland anyway
If they’re going to attack a NATO member (humongous if), it definitely isn’t going to be Finland. It’s gonna be one of the Baltic states.
I kinda hope they’d be dumb enough to get their shit kicked in by Finland AGAIN. Gonna find an entire nation of Simo Häyhä’s waiting, this time with javelins and drones.
So if the Russia sycophants use “NATO on their doorstep” as an excuse to forget Russia to invade ukraine wouldn’t this build-up on the border of a NATO country give NATO the same excuse? I’m sorry I have trouble keeping up with the “logic” of Russia apologists.
You dont have to. It is all vibe based ideology. Like all good fascist propaganda.
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And here’s the other thing. It’s not the 1800s. Russia has a nuclear triad. Wtf is a buffer state for again exactly?
Nobody seems particularly alarmed by this, least of all Finland. I doubt Putin is going to go from losing a war against Ukraine to losing a war against Ukraine and Finland and the rest of NATO too. Seems like this “buildup” has been there for a while and is only growing presumably because Ukraine is getting really good at striking targets inside of Russian borders.
It’s being reported by the “Moscow Times” so that alone makes me dubious about this even being real
Finnish people love metal. I bet it helps them in battle. At least +10 attack.
Finnish Coma-Doof Warriors.
Here is the article this article is using for its source: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/19/world/europe/russia-finland-border.html
Edit: Yes, the article isn’t great, and clearly has a Russian bias. I was just linking it becuase its the original, and more complete source.
Fuck putin
Here we go boys! WW3! Lets watch the destruction of the world order AGAIN. I wonder which side Trump will take? The allies he hates or the autocrat he adores?
With what? Motorcycles and Ladas?
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!?
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The image used here and in the NYT article shows a training ground, these are temporary tents for training troops.
“A likely excuse.”
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Tents, shelters for fighter jets and warehouses for military vehicles show increased Russian presence near one of NATO’s newest members.
Oh no so scary, tents and shelters!
Rumours has it that the rare tank you see there is non operational too (or they would be in Ukraine waiting to be demolished).
