Dilara was on her lunch break in the London store where she works when a tall man walked up to her and said: “I swear red hair means you’ve just been heartbroken.”

The man continued the conversation as they both got in a lift, and he asked Dilara for her phone number.

What Dilara did not realise was that the man was secretly filming her on his smart glasses - which look like normal eyewear but have a tiny camera which can record video.

The footage was then posted to TikTok, where it received 1.3m views. “I just wanted to cry,” Dilara, 21, told the BBC.

The man who filmed her, it turned out, had posted dozens of secretly filmed videos to TikTok, giving men tips on how to approach women.

Dilara also found out that her phone number was visible in the video. She then faced a wave of messages and calls.

  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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    Fuck TikTok. And fuck smart glasses. What the fuck is wrong with people who would even design glasses with a hidden camera?

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      Smart glasses and hidden cameras are two different products.

      That being said, anyone can easily film you in public because anyone just assumes you’re just holding your phone up for something else.

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        I consider it hidden if it’s designed to look like a normal pair of glasses which the post states is the case.

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          Yes, it is a hidden camera in a pair of glasses, not smart glasses.

          They were pointing out the difference. It would be like someone confusing a camera for a smartphone.

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            It would be like someone confusing a camera for a smartphone.

            Not really. For the purposes of this conversation that doesn’t matter at all. The only things that matter here would be can the glasses film and can anyone tell that at a glance? I don’t care if the glasses can also do Google searches or some shit. That doesn’t necessarily violate my privacy. What violates my privacy is someone filming, without me even having a clue they might be.

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              Not really. For the purposes of this conversation that doesn’t matter at all.

              It does, because the statement that people are taking issue with:

              Smart glasses and hidden cameras are two different products.

              Is objectively correct and that was the only point they were trying to make. They were not claiming that it makes filming okay or that hidden cameras are not a problem.

              The people are not responding to the actual words written by the person, they’re replying the the subtext that they feel was implied.

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                Me: makes point

                Online weirdo: akshually, you’re wrong. Unrelated irrelevant details matter

                You: yeah, ya idiot! It totally matters cuz we said so!

                Edit: checks out completely that your only post on this platform is to claim you weren’t being transphobic and making a big stink about it

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                  If you get so triggered when people point out that you’re wrong, maybe you should spend more time reading a book and less time trying to be insulting.

                  Your comments read like you’re an angsty teenager who is incapable of having a conversation like an adult.

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        anyone can easily film you in public because anyone just assumes you’re just holding your phone up for something else.

        Nope. If someone is doing that, I can easily notice it and know it’s a possibility and move/turn away. Just because I can judge that as probably not happening doesn’t mean a phone being held is equivalent to a human literally just wearing glasses with their head turned my way.

        Are you really advocating for the position that I should give up the fight and just accept being filmed at all times in public?

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          Nope. If someone is doing that, I can easily notice it and know it’s a possibility and move/turn away. Just because I can judge that as probably not happening doesn’t mean a phone being held is equivalent to a human literally just wearing glasses with their head turned my way.

          Agreed.

          Are you really advocating for the position that I should give up the fight and just accept being filmed at all times in public?

          Assuming you’re in the US, you have no expectations of privacy in public, and it’s perfectly legal to film you in public. You do have to accept that, yes.

          I’m sure a case can be made for someone approaching you and getting you to interact while filming secretly, and I hope she can sue him for damages. But simply being recorded in public is not something you can do anything about.

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            I am well aware of that supreme court decision. If hidden cameras mounted in glasses were a thing then, I highly doubt that ruling could’ve ever happened. Thanks for telling me what I have to accept though. Totally helpful and kind thing to do. Thanks also for the weird condescension. Exactly what the world needs right now.

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              I wasn’t condescending at all, and it didn’t seem you were aware, I was trying to be informative. What a weird response, honestly.

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                FYI since you pretend not to know: “you do have to accept [thing that didn’t exist at the time a ruling was made]” would read as being a smartass to most people

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                  Gotcha, I didn’t realize it came off like that.

                  Again, was trying to be informative, because not accepting it implied not being aware, and we all have to accept it… or revolt and rewrite the rules…

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    This dude deserves nothing less that an ass beating then criminal charges.

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    That woman who smashed an idiot’s glasses in New York a few weeks/months? ago was ahead of the curve.

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      It’s all good until she breaks someone’s plain old real prescription glasses thinking they are smart glasses.

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    I’m fully ok with punching these people in the face and break their glasses. If their nose gets broken in the process, that’s just something we have to live with.

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    Until there’s a law against it, a law that requires an obvious flashing red light, this will continue to happen. I know the Meta glasses have a light that supposedly can’t be covered without covering the camera. But, that’s there only because Meta chose to put it there to head off complaints, à la Google Glass.

    But, I think those lights will go away, and I believe that is what the billionaires who make the choices want to happen. Because, being in public, not knowing whether you’re being filmed is a great way to keep the masses in line. Fear and division in the populous is how those in power stay in power, when the people want them out.

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      I don’t have a link right offhand, but the indicator led is defeatable. There’s people on ebay offering the modded glasses for only (iirc) like $100 more than msrp.

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    I think we’re reaching the point where “anti smart glasses” glasses should become a thing, that is, a type of electronic glasses that can detect whether the person you’re talking to is wearing smart glasses and warn you about it.

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      Infrared leds should be able to overexpose the cameras unless they have IR filters in them.

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      There are already phone apps that try to do this with WiFi/Bluetooth scanning, object detection, red “filters” and so on.

      Theoretically, it’d be really cheap to make a tiny “detector” camera; maybe a Bluetooth earbud looking thing on one ear? Every existing tiny camera can pick up infrared if you just take off and change the filter, and your phone can run tiny object detection algos with almost no power.


      The problem is mass adoption.

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    She didn’t deserve that, and these glasses are so problematic. Too problematic for society, just like so much of the AI products being introduced.

    Yes some of the glasses are supposed to have lights, but if you search online you can find plenty of ways to cover or conceal them.

    Also myself and my significant other wear prescription glasses that have a similar shape to these. At what point do we have to start being anxious about people starting to slug anyone wearing glasses out of paranoid concerns for their privacy?

    I don’t want to deal with any of this. We live in such a dystopian world.

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    Do these stupid companies actually think that any of these products aren’t just going to be used by perverts?

    There are legitimate professional use cases: for example, imagine a consulting doctor looking in on what another surgeon is doing and offering opinions as the operation goes on. Or same thing with engineers.

    But I can’t think of a single consumer use case that isn’t designed for perverts.

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    Straight up, that guy needs his knees bent the wrong way - no way in Hell is he too stupid to not understand that he was putting her in genuine danger by splashing her digits and face online.

    I can still remember years ago when the prototype ‘smart glasses’ (see image below), or whatever they were called, were new. Some fucker tried to pull off a demo in a small community pub, but someone noticed his gigantic weird frames and caught on. MFer got bum-rushed out the front door under threat of a serious ass-kicking, and anyone who’s seen a crowd of pub regulars work someone over knows what I mean. They should be too scared to pull this shit on women.

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    Using those kinds of glasses would be a great way to expose a narcissist in real time; I’ve personally done certain things in my own home as a child to prove someone else’s guilt, and this kind of stuff would’ve made it simpler. Ethical use solves problems instead of creating new ones.