• RejZoR@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    Lol, just now? Eurovision has been political charade the entire fucking time. It’s not “best artist wins” it’s friend countries voting for eachother.

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      1 month ago

      When countries vote for their neighbour, that is usually not enough to change the end result. The most popular song usually still wins. But Israel is assembling political votes all across Europe. Only a few percent of the voters need to be rallied to completely overtake the public votes. Also considering that Israel supporters are motivated to vote 20 times, people voting for their favorite song will likely only vote a few times, if at all.

      Yes, Eurovision has always been political to some degree, but it hasn’t really swayed the results this much ever before.

  • MTK@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    It’s a joke…

    Votes were always political BS, they ban a bunch of very legitimate things like the pride flag and Palestine flag, yet they don’t mind having a country in the process of committing genocide in it.

    Look, the 7.10 was terrible, Israel had every right to fight back. But genocide is genocide and it is not self defense.

    Fuck Hamas, fuck Israel and fuck the Eurovision.

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      1 month ago

      It’s so hard to voice this opinion online. Both are the bad guys and really fucking bad ones at that. Clear as day.

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      Israel had every right to fight back

      Maybe after a third year of Livestreamed genocide people will stop saying this stupid shit.

      7.10 was the armed resistance of a colonial concentration camp broke out and attacked the fascist ethno supremacist state in an act of SELF DEFENSE. You can condemn individual acts of violence, but Israel is the aggressor and history doesn’t begin on 7 October.

      • MTK@lemmy.world
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        What a load of BS. It was a terrorist attack on civilians.

        The Israel-Palestine conflict has been goibg on for long, Israel is to blame for a lot of it, some of the attacks by Hamas can be categorized as resistance, the 7.10 was a pure terrorist attack, no two ways about it.

        Targeting civilians based on which side of the border they reside in is a terrorist attack, this applies to both sides. On the 7th Hamas murdered who ever they found, including Muslims.

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          Civilians that happen to be occupation military and their families living on illegally occupied land around the concentration camp in what they themselves describe as a buffer zone and a first line of defense when the colonized inevitably break out of the concentration camp?

          Those civilians? The literal human shields put there by the state?

          You can condemn individual attacks and label them “terrorist” even, but you when you insist history begins on that day and give Israel the “right to defend itself”, you’re whitewashing genocide.

          Nat Turner’s rebellion was described the way you describe October 7 today, and people will describe you as the tone deaf Nazi sympathizers tomorrow, as we describe your like back in Turner’s day.

          The right of self defense belongs to the Palestinians, the occupied, the people without an army fighting a fascist ethno-supremacist nuclear super power, not the other way around.

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            Sure, because as everyone knows, theses cases are so clear cut and there is alwas a good side that does no wrong and a bad side that does only wrong.

            Maybe you are too close to the problem, I don’t know your story, but from the side it is obvious that the 7.10 was hate fueled terrorism (you can see them even shooting friendly dogs) just as it is clear that right now there is a genocide going on.

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    1 month ago

    Russia was banned from competing within a week of their invasion of Ukraine yet, Israel is still allowed to compete?

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    Bye losers, some/most of the israelis citizens don’t even stand up against genocide by their own leader, **** off then

  • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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    The reason we don’t have a Western Hemisphere version is because it would be too much to watch everyone wash Drake in Spanish, French, Navajo, Portuguese, various indigenous languages, etc. Give that man some time to reconsider his decisions. Imagine getting roasted by one of the last speakers of an endangered Mayan dialect. That’s too much. And DJ Mustard has a busy schedule. He can’t make beats for every culture.

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    The very simple fact Israel, a middle eastern country, is allowed in an European event, raises the fact that it is allowed because populated by (mostly) settlers of European descent.

    Lebanon is not allowed, albeit being closer.

    Turkey is not allowed, albeit having a part of its territory in Europe.

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      Cool disinformation.

      Any country is allowed if they are full members of the European Broadcasting Union or paid ‘associate Members’ that are invited to compete by the EBU.

      Lebanon is absolutely allowed - as are any EBU full members. However their national broadcaster has declined to join the contest due to their own laws prohibiting the transmission of any Israeli content, and their concerns of this being impossible with Israel being members of the competition.

      Turkey has been part of Eurovision over 30 times and even won and hosted the competion in 2004. They withdrew in 2013 citing criticisms with the rules of the competition and have not competed since - their government’s choice, so blame Erdogan.