• floofloof@lemmy.ca
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    Parsi also shared video of a distraught woman who described an apparent so-called “double-tap” strike, a common tactic used by the US, Israel, and other militaries in which an initial bombing is followed up with a second one in a bid to kill and injure survivors and first responders.

    “They killed everyone,” the woman said of the attackers. “They dropped the first bomb, then when people went to help, they dropped another bomb.”

    Bombing schools, gymnasiums, hospitals, carpet bombing cities… Mark Carney do you still support this?

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      I don’t understand why there hasn’t been more of a response to his remarks (that I’ve seen anyway). I was appalled when he said it, but it seems like people are either ignoring it or trying to explain it away.

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    For a very long time, the US military has prided itself on performing surgical strikes with the least amount of civilian casualties and collateral damage as possible. Israel prides itself in their capacity to inflict maximum pain and destruction.

    Allowing Israel to lead and dictate our military operations (as stated by Trump and US officials) in any way, is leaving us soaked in blood and with a stain that won’t clean off for a very long time.

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      Israel prides itself in their capacity to inflict maximum pain and destruction.

      That wasn’t the case at the start of the Gaza genocide. They used to say how good they were at targeting and that they only did precision strikes.

      Then I guess that they realised that nobody believed them but they weren’t going to do anything about it anyway so they stopped pretending.

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      You spelled “ever” wrong.

      Not in a long time. “Ever” for that stain tongonaway, you’d need to clean all the blood you already have in your hands. Keep cheering up for your veteran war criminals whose only repercussions have been selfminflictednwhen they can’t live anymore with the things they’ve done.

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      15 days ago

      Blumaga: “American meddling in the Middle East is a new phenomenon that was invented solely by Republicans”

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    This is pure propaganda. Let me explain.

    All friends and family we have contact with within Iran are not afraid of any strikes and describe the attacks as highly targeted. There is no “carpet bombing”.

    The article cites NIAC, a propaganda piece of the IRGC, as a source, of which Trita Parsi is the head. All first-hand sources are directly controlled by the Islamic regime. The article even cites Hezbollah (!!!). I think this is very telling regarding overall credibility. Of course they have an interest in showing as high numbers of dead innocent civilians as possible.

    Let’s say the number 500 over 4 days is correct. Of course this is tragic, but compare that to the 40 000 slaughtered by the Islamic regime on Jan 8-9. Iranians against the regime, which are the vast majority, see the US-Israeli attacks not as a start of the war but as a continuation of a war against the regime that has already started. The Iranians were screaming for foreign intervention, not because they necessarily like it, especially by the US and Israel, but because they see it as a necessity to get rid of the regime. Iranian civilians have tried and failed to get rid of the regime, because they lack weapons.

    Iranians in general are pleased with the strikes on the leaders of the regime, there have especially been much celebration of the ayatollah being killed, but there is also a worry regarding what the war may bring, especially as they know that the US and Israel don’t have the best interest of the Iranian people in mind.

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      So you are saying the bombing isn’t actually killing anyone and the Iranians actually approve of their cities being bombed.

      How stupid do you think people are?

      Genuine question.

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        I’m not denying people are being killed. I’m saying there is some collateral damage but it’s probably a lot less than reported. In all conflicts there will unfortunately be some innocent people that die, this is impossible to avoid.

        And yes, Iranians approve and even celebrate the attacks against the regime, of which they see themselves as hostages of. There are plenty of videos showing this. You should try talking to some actual Iranians.

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          Over 100 school girls killed. “Collateral damage” that the people are happy, ecstatic , thrilled to give.

          No.

          You are falling for Israel propaganda friend.

          These people are not happy to be getting bombed.

          Only a complete dimwit would believe videos being shown on fox and cnn and then circulated on Instagram, are real Iranians cheering that their children are being bombed. That their cities are being bombed by Israel and the U.S. (weird how none of the women in these videos are wearing hijabs).

          It’s playing on this idea that the u.s is the white savior.

          We aren’t. And we never ever have been.

          Regardless if most of the Iranian people wanted their leader gone or not, they aren’t cheering being pulled into a war where their civilians are targeted.

          Think about how much you hate Trump. Do you think you would be on the streets right now celebrating if Russia came here and bombed the piss out of D.C and killed a bunch of kids and civilians. But they also got Trump. And then after they killed him they also continued to bomb other cities. ?!

          No really. Would you be cheering and say. “Well that’s collateral damage.”? Use your head.

          Don’t fall for the lies.

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      Imaginary Iranians: “I am so glad little girls are blown to pieces in the name of the american’s discourse about democracy.”

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        You’re deliberately misrepresenting what I’m saying.

        Regarding the school attack, it is not clear who were the perpetrators and all information is from regime media. UNESCO has initiated an investigation into it and we will see what the conclusion is.

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          Oh of course you will say the perpetrators are still unclear, what a mystery! Who knows who might be bombing people during the american strike that was announced with months of anticipation , it might be anyone, right? Those kids could have vaporized themselves right?

          The udefinable other is so prone to violence these things just happen in their domain right? The CIA just needs to arm them like they are doing openly with the Kurdish right now and with how american government officials openly stated there was mossad agents intervening with previous outbursts of violence.

          Disgusting, just disgusting. America is a country of home to the most barbaric nazi psychopaths.