Israel just loves killing activists, doesn’t it?
Rachel Aliene Corrie (April 10, 1979 – March 16, 2003) was an American nonviolence activist and diarist.[1][2] She was a member of the pro-Palestinian International Solidarity Movement (ISM)[3] and was active throughout the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories. In 2003, she was in Rafah, a city in the Gaza Strip, where the Israeli military was demolishing Palestinian houses at the height of the Second Intifada. While protesting the demolitions as they were being carried out, she was killed by an Israeli armored bulldozer that crushed her.[4][2][5][6]
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Corrie went to Gaza as part of her college’s senior-year independent-study proposal to connect Olympia and Rafah with each other as sister cities.[7] While in Rafah on March 16, 2003, she joined other ISM activists in efforts to nonviolently prevent Israel’s demolition of Palestinian property,[2][8][9] where she was killed by an Israeli bulldozer that crushed her. Physicians present and fellow ISM activists stated that Corrie had been wearing a high-visibility vest and was deliberately driven over, while the Israeli army said that it was an accident because the bulldozer operator did not see her.[10][11][12][13] Following the incident, an Israeli military investigation concluded that Corrie’s death was the result of an accident and that the bulldozer operator had limited visibility. The ruling attracted criticism from Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, B’Tselem, and Yesh Din.[14][15][16] HRW stated that the ruling represented a pattern of impunity for Israeli forces.[14]
“a pattern of impunity for Israeli forces” back in 2003
In 2005, Corrie’s parents filed a civil lawsuit, charging the Israeli state with not conducting a full and credible investigation into the case and therefore holding responsibility for her death.[17] They contended that either she had been intentionally killed or the Israeli soldiers on scene had acted with reckless neglect.[5] They sued for a symbolic US$1 in damages. However, an Israeli court rejected their suit in August 2012 and upheld the results of the military’s investigation, ruling that the Israeli government was not responsible for Corrie’s death,[5] again attracting criticism from Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and various activists.[14][15][16] An appeal against this ruling was heard on May 21, 2014, but was ultimately rejected by the Supreme Court of Israel on February 14, 2015.[18]
And corporate interests too, to make it all really fucked up.
Revelation of Caterpillar surveillance In 2017, documents emerged that showed Caterpillar had hired private investigators to spy on the family of Rachel Corrie following her killing in early 2003.[126][127]
James Henry Dominic Miller (18 December 1968 – 2 May 2003) was a Welsh cameraman, producer, and director, and recipient of numerous awards, including five Emmy Awards. He was killed by Israel Defense Forces (IDF) gunfire while filming a documentary in the Gaza Strip.[1] Miller worked regularly with Saira Shah for several years, and they formed a business partnership to operate an independent production company called Frostbite Productions in 2001.
The Israeli Military Police investigation into Miller’s death closed on 9 March 2005 with an announcement that the soldier suspected of firing the shot would not be indicted as they could not establish that his shot was responsible, though he would be disciplined for violating the rules of engagement and for changing his account of the incident.[2] On 6 April 2006, the inquest jury at St Pancras Coroner’s Court in London returned a verdict of unlawful killing, finding that Miller had been “murdered.”[1] Forensic experts from London Metropolitan Police concluded that the bullets were consistent with those used by the IDF. After meetings with the Miller family, the Attorney General, Lord Goldsmith, sent a formal request to his Israeli counterpart in June 2007 for prosecution proceedings to be enacted within six weeks against the soldier responsible for firing the shot.[3] The requests were ignored by the Israeli government and prosecution proceedings have never been held.
Like, didn’t we freak out (justifiably) when North Korea killed an American kid? Is it just acceptable to routinely slaughter non combatants without recourse?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_flotilla_raid an incident from 2010 where IDF soldiers boarded a humanitarian ship and ten people were killed among a large numbers of others wounded. in case anyone thinks this wasn’t a big deal
Fuck Greta Thunberg. I’m sure if you weight the positive impact of her activism against the carbon footprint of her incredibly privileged lifestyle, she still does more harm than good. Yes, I know your can’t utilitarianising your way into everything but still.
Buddy, please, log off.
I know it’s hard to accept it, but it’s been a while since my people haven’t had to listen to your people.
Historically speaking, successful social change for the better, eg revolutions, has almost always come only when certain middle class/privileged people joined with underprivileged people.
Attacking anyone who is richer or whiter than yourself, when they are on the same side as you, is stupid.
Successful for whom? You do see the problem, right?
To add to this: You do see the irony in replying to a post about white activism and its hypocrisy with “well, activism works better when white people get involved”? Right? RIGHT?
You do see the problem, right?
Yes, you’re it.
Ah, the classic white response. Have fun.
I’m a white dude, and this treats like you’re just pissy, but I’m open to the idea I might be wrong or blinded due to my privilege.
Please explain what you’re getting at? If I’m in the wrong about this, I would love to know and become better.
Why yes, I’m am pissy at white people. You thinking that pointing it out is some kind of “ah-ha” moment just showcases obliviousness. I do believe you’re at least curious to understand, though. Unfortunately, explaining it would require a longer response than I’m willing to type right now so I’ll leave you with some links:
https://www.healthline.com/health/white-saviorism
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/09670106211024419
https://www.greeneuropeanjournal.eu/the-politics-of-representation-in-the-climate-movement/
Basically, white people getting involved into the problems of non-white societies very often leads to erasure and colonialism.
What are you even talking about ?
Of the hypocrisy of white activism.
Your bits are contamination. Go offline Steve, have a nice day.
I could be 24/7 on Lemmy and still do less harm for the environment than Greta ever will by simply just existing. You need to let go of your internalized racism.
which racism? this is the Internet, no one knows you’re dog!! OR which breed, for that matter.
Fuck chihuahuas though, right?
This isn’t the Internet. This is Lemmy, which skews male and white.
So?
Israel bombed a ship in international waters. That ship was filled with supplies and headed to Gaza.
Were those truly international waters? Being just 17km from Malta suggests they were within Malta’s territorial waters. This matter should be addressed promptly. However, without a European army, tyrants can act with impunity. 🤷🏻♂️
I read it was international waters, but that’s even worse if that’s true…
So?
Just another good ol’ war crime or maybe another complete disregard of international law, or an act of aggression towards a sovereign nation depending on where the bombing happened. No biggie right ?
It’s a biggie, but honestly I could give 2 shits. There’s way worse to worry about.
It’s big enough for most people to care. If you personally don’t care then why don’t you personally shut the fuck up and let other people care?
Because shot i don’t subscribe to is being spammed all over the fucking fediverse.
Adjust your settings then, don’t cry to us.
Greta Thunberg - how to milk one viral moment you had as a kid and make a career out of it.
How to consistently stand up for your morals and do more to make a difference than 99.999% of people on this planet.
Sorry that offends you so much.
I like Greta but to play devil’s advocate I think 80% of people her age and millennials in general would do as much or more given the same opportunities. Let’s not worship the one activist. There are loads of activists fighting the exact same battles that would probably be lucky if 30 people knew their name.
Let’s not worship the one activist.
no one was worshipping the kid, stop reframing reality for your issues.
Maybe not you or me but there are definitely a few out there.
no they don’t. This entire discourse is like chris farley’s bus driver.
I would describe your resistance to any critical assessment or reproach of this figure as akin to “dogmatic faith”.
Stop making shit up and moving the goalposts.
critical assessment
and exactly when was this presented?
Voting is a pretty low bar for having an opportunity to make a difference with little effort, and only 42% managed that in the US.
What “opportunity” would 80% of people do better? She was skipping school to protest climate change at 15. She made her own opportunities.
If my 99.999% figure is worship, then the numbers you’re throwing around seem overly dismissive of her efforts, to put it lightly.
She’s been given stages and microphones and interviews. You think boat rides into Gaza are free? She is given the opportunity to do more, she isn’t inherently better.
Also, many US States haven’t reported how many of which age groups voted, it’s difficult to find any data on the subject compared to who they voted for and other demographic labels like ethnicity or gender. There are some claims that 18 to 29yo were 47% voter turnout but only a fraction of those are considered millennial and voter turnout increases with degree level. And Greta Thunberg isn’t from the US, she is from Sweden.
Yes, because she established herself as an outstanding activist. You act like she stumbled across a “famous activist” position on LinkedIn and has been half-assing it the whole time which is an absurd characterization of what she has done with her life.
Nobody is saying she “better” than you or your activist buddies, but she deserves a bit more respect for what she has accomplished than “bottom 20% of activists”
Damn, that’s an impressive number of down-votes!
It truly is, its the most downvotes I’ve seen a comment get yet.
So to you she’s doing that for attention? What are you waiting for to get on a boat to bring aid to Gaza?
User name checks out.
Have another downvote, on the house.
Now that she’s spoken out against genocide, I can no longer tell if the people who hate her are democrats or republicans.
I’m sure you have done plenty more, right?
Username checks out.
