Donald Trump made clear that his personal grudge with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky hasn’t abated during a phone interview with NBC News.

Speaking with Meet the Press anchor Kristen Welker on Saturday, the president knocked Zelensky for offering assistance to the U.S. and Middle Eastern countries, the latter of which the Ukrainian president said on Friday were seeking his aid in sharing drone detection technology.

The “last person we need help from is Zelensky,” Trump told Welker.

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        I have no doubt they happened as random hand gestures, but they were not rock paper scissoring. The only thing that looks exactly like an intentional rock-paper-scissor would be the left picture, but just indicating “two” could look like that.

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    Unbelievable…Trump’s would rather save his ego than let Ukraine help save American lives.

    My brother in-law actually has a diagnosed personality disorder and the way Trump behaves, especially while under duress, is identical to how my brother in-law would react.

    If Trump indeed suffers from a personality disorder, which I am convinced is the case, then he is literally incapable of backing down.

    This is an absolute nightmare scenario for the US. Trump won’t stop until he is forced to stop. We will see Trump make even more crucial mistakes and see him try and escalate this as far as he possible can.

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      Is it still considered a disorder when it is someone’s whole personality? If you removed the perpetual rage, the extreme narcissism and the bullying I think you would only find an orange stain on the floor where Trump was.

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        Personality disorders are controversial in psychology. But yes they are considered legitimate.

        Patterns of specific maladaptive traits and behaviors that are consistent across the lifespan.

        Personality disorder types are specific clusters of symptoms/traits/behaviors.

        I’m personally on the fence if personalities can be categorized very much. People are very unique in their traits and levels of traits.

        Except for people with high narcissism and dark triad traits (anti-social traits like manipulation , lack of empathy, vindictiveness, impulsivity).

        These are just ruthless egotistical people who all behave the same. Just incredibly selfish and cruel.

        Estimated to be ~5% of them in the general population with some professions having very high instances. Like lawyers and CEOs.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

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      He recently stated that he wants to bomb Khark Island “Just for fun.”

      While this is a bald-faced lie to cover up for the fact that their earlier strikes weren’t as successful as claimed, just think about what kind of lie he was willing to tell; to him, the idea of putting Americans in harm’s way “just for fun” seems completely reasonable.

      He literally does not care about the lives of the people who swore an oath to serve, to the point where he cannot even conceive of the notion that anyone else would.

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      There is a phenomenon called “self handicapping”. And everyone does it a little at least a few times but it’s typically a behavior that’s considered poor.

      Here is an example of how it works.

      Let’s say you have a big exam tomorrow. And you fucked around , didn’t study. You knew about it weeks ago. You know you are going to fail it. But. Instead of spending that last evening cramming as much as possible to make up for procrastinating to maybe have a small chance of passing it, you decide to go to a bar and get shit faced.

      The next day you don’t even show up to class.

      You blame failing the class on the alcohol. Instead of your inability to prioritize your education or your own intelligence.

      It was the alcohol. Not your own ability to pass. You probably would have aced it actually. If you hadn’t been hungover.

      So this is a way to save face and preserve a sense of self superiority.

      People who are narcissistic do this almost constantly. They never fail. No , not them. It’s always some external cause that their plans didn’t work.

      They intentionally set up multiple barriers so that they can always fall back on those.

      Trump does the same,

      For instance. Tarriffs. He can claim he has a plan to fix the economy with tarriffs but Congress won’t let him. So we won’t ever know how great of a plan it was. It totally would have worked. It just needed a little more time.

      But. often the obstacle isn’t doing its job.

      Example. Trump starts war. It’s going badly. He won’t pull out until Congress forces him. Then he can say "we were winning. My plan was great they just wouldn’t let me see it through.

      He wants Congress to stop it. He has wanted Congress and the supreme Court to stop most of the b.s. So he can claim they were good plans but someone else fucked it up.

      He did this all through his first term too. It’s how people like him function.

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      Trump’s would rather save his ego

      Trump’s ego is the thing he values most of all.

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    This makes complete sense to me. If you think you are the most powerful man in the world, controlling the worlds biggest military, then an offer to help from a much smaller country who has been asking for your help for years, is going to be seen as an insult. It’s basically just his fragile ego, refusing to admit that the country with the most modern combat experience against IRANIAN drones is going to be of any help.

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      At the same time, he’s demanding “allies” commit ships to his stupid war.

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      Meanwhile all of Ukraine’s real allies took them up on this offer ages ago. I know for a fact that they’ve been training Canadians on anti-drone warfare pretty much since the war started. Ukraine has asked nothing in return for this, it’s just the kind of thing you do for your allies when you understand alliances as bonds of solidarity that benefit both parties, and not something to be exploited.

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          Let’s not get ahead of ourselves just because Ukraine is the victim in a conflict. It’s one of the top 3 most corrupt countries on the entire European continent, and sadly, the war only made it worse.

          Of course, we should be treating Ukraine as a potential long-term ally and partner, and helping it defend as well as rebuild itself. However, we cannot ignore its shortcomings. At this point, the Ukrainian government has practically full reign over everything in the country with no oversight at any level.

          Some of it can be blamed on the war, maybe. But absolutely not all of it. Not even half. Corruption is a long running issue in Ukraine, which we should be helping it with, probably after the war ends. If Ukraine wants help, of course. Or if it wants to join the EU, in which case it’d be non-negotiable.

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              France is probably the most educated and politically active population and they still get the same wanker laws being handed down by the same billionaires

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                A secret pedophile ring run by american billionaires and the American government actively defending them and protecting them, because the president himself is a corrupt pedophile, is the most corrupt thing I know of in this day of politics.

                And that’s just the tip of the iceberg of American corruption.

                How many billions in bribes did Trump receive?

                How many international laws did the Trump admin break?

                How many national laws did the Trump admin break?

                How many lies did Trump tell and deceive the population?

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                  Shit I know. I’m watching him rob me blind. Doesn’t change the fact that European politics share financial interests with the evil empire. You guys had no problem investing your pension funds in the bombing. You buy the bombs. Get the fuck outta here. Just watched you all cave to Russia over natural gas prices 🤣

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              I don’t know about top 5, but top 3 would probably consist of Belarus, Hungary and Ukraine, in this order.

              We usually think that Ukraine isn’t severely corrupt, just because it’s western-aligned. But that’s not what corruption means.

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                But Ukraine is actively trying to rid itself of corruption? While several others aren’t bothering at all.

                Edit: technically Russia is European. So that should be automatically #1.

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                  But Ukraine is actively trying to rid itself of corruption

                  Is it though? Before the war, its efforts were dissappinting at best. Right now, they’re nonexistent.

                  The Ukrainian government has just recently given the president the ability to hand pick people to oversee the president, effectively dismantling the entire office responsible for overseeing him.

                  Again, in case I failed to convey this point in prior comments, I’m not saying Ukraine is evil or that we should not support it. I’m all for supporting it and having it join the EU in the future, but at the same time I want to highlight the issues it’s facing, both internal and external.

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                Damn you missed out on a bunch of good opportunities. So you’re like 15 years behind on modern history. geography and politics leaves a lot to be desired.

                You’re clearly a college educated American, by this level of knowledge being demonstrated. I’m always thrilled to see the value of those college degrees on display.

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                  You are perfectly welcome to contribute your input, if you have any. Preferably without insinuations or insults, as I’d expect from a well educated person.

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            Ya according to 2013 stats which you guys love to pretend are still relevant and not related to the Russians that had a strangle hold on the government and got thrown out.

            More Russians = more corrupt.

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    Ukraine is winning because they found cheaper drone defenses than drones…

    Were burning thru our sophisticated interceptors because we’re wasting them on drones 1/100th the prices.

    Iran just has to keep pumping out the same drones they’ve been sending to Russia.

    Like, Ukraine is literally the one government that knows how to win this kind of war.

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      The only person who knows how to do anything in the US is Donald Trump, if anyone has the audacity to know better than him they will be demoted, fired or abducted by ICE.

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      Haaaaaaang on.

      Are you saykng that Iran has been supplying Russia with drones, and now they’ll be keeping them to use against the USA, for the explicit purpose of being destroyed?

      So, wouldn’t this mean Russia loses their supply? So wouldn’t that mean it’s actually in Zelenskyys best interest to NOT help the USA?

      If USA ends their war quickly, Iran starts supplying Russia again with drones. But until that happens, wouldn’t Ukraine have an easier time in their own war?

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    Trump treated Zelensky like a wet rag when he invited him to the whitehouse and Zelensky still willing to offer his first hand knowledge and experience of drone warfare.

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      That’s what being the bigger man truly means. In more ways that one.

      Zelensky is the bigger man in this case. Again, in more ways than one.

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        Well, also, strategically any pain for Iran is good for Ukraine, since Iran supplies Russia.

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      It’s really telling how everyone went from “this is an illegal war and it needs to end” to “zelenski is so based for wanting to help America with with the war”

      This obsession American liberals have with zelenski where he seemingly can’t do wrong is so weird. He does a lot wrong, this is one the wrongs. He’s offering to help extend the war and make it significantly more deadly.

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    Cucked little bitch. Putin’s dick is so far down his throat that he’s able to fuck his breakfast Big Mac.

    I still cannot believe that this pube-flecked chunk of human excrement won a second term. It’s still genuinely sickening to me, like my stomach really feels like I’m perpetually tipping over the apogee of a rollercoaster when I remember what happened. His winning the first term was at least comprehensible, but I’m still punchdrunk from the shock of it all, even after all this time. And I’m not even from the US! I can’t imagine what it feels like for the people who have to live there, especially those who aren’t cis-white-hetero-males.

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    Did we really expect anything else from the guy who wanted to swap out a 4 star general for a TV host as their minister of defence? Seems to be par for the course.

    Meanwhile, everyone else is looking at Ukraine, taking notes every single day. We now know what the war of tomorrow will look like. That is a rare opportunity. Completely wasted on Americans that think brute force is always the answer.

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      Not just looking and taking notes; being actively trained by Ukraine. They didn’t just make this offer to their allies yesterday. Every other nation that’s been rendering assistance to Ukraine has been actively receiving training in drone warfare from them in return for a while now. The US refused because they were too arrogant to think Ukraine had anything to teach them. And then they started a war with a nation that’s leading the way in cheap combat drones. Drones that Ukraine already knows how to counter.

      And people have died for that arrogance.

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        I know mate, we’ve had Ukrainians here in Sweden sharing their experience of what does and doesn’t work.

        As for Iran. That’s just a whole new level of incompetence. Setting aside Israel attacking water desalination plants, which should be an obvious warcrime. The fact they just started bombing without a plan is mind blowing. Like you said, against a country that have been making the exact drones Ukraine have experience in intercepting. And trump is too proud. Pure hubris

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      Apparently, we didn’t think brute force was the answer to Russia invading Ukraine, which still makes me sad too.

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    That relationship exploded early last year, when the president and Vice President JD Vance appeared to engineer a confrontation with the Ukrainian leader at the White House. The two blamed him for gambling with “World War Three” as the conversation devolved into a shouting match in front of the cameras that stunned reporters in the room.

    https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-meeting-zelensky-ukraine-vance-b2706864.html

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      Gambling with “world war three” — you mean like attacking a large nation that’s friendly with China and Russia and has a choke hold on international shipping of crude oil?

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        But BiBi told him to

        What was Drumpf supposed to do?

        Not attack Iran? >!and risk BiBi showing the world the dirt he has on him?!<

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      As they launch into random wars with several middle eastern nations and beyond… Le sigh.

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        Look. Trump has gone bankrupt THREE TIMES from owning casinos.

        The man clearly has no idea how gambling works.

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    “Personal grudge”? Trump is a Russian asset. He doesn’t give a fuck about Ukraine.

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    He’s such an ungracious pile of garbage to the point where he’s ok with our allies and citizens dying.

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    Of course, that fat bastard in the Oval Office being the running dog for the Kremlin.

    I’m sure it’s an open secret in Ukraine.

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    Why would a Russian asset successfully weakening our ties with other countries, destroying our economy, and exposing our troops to unnecessary harm… want something that works?

    He and his maggot faithful are speed running losing as if it were their explicit purpose.