It was three weeks after Christmas when the bombshell letter arrived. Guy Shahar and his wife, Oksana, looked at each other in stunned disbelief.
They had followed the Guardian’s investigation into the carer’s allowance scandal that has left thousands of families with crippling debts and criminal records. Not once did they think they would join them.
“Important,” it read in big bold type. “You have been paid more carer’s allowance than you are entitled to. You now need to pay this money back”.
In some weeks, she was paid just 38p more than the threshold – but for that tiny infraction she is being forced to repay £64.60 each time, the rate of carer’s allowance at the time.
Why are Anglo-Saxon ‘conservative’ governments hell-bent on punishing the poor to the fullest extent. They no longer hide the strategy that cruelty is the point! And the general public seems to like it, and votes for it in ever greater numbers, until it happens to themselves, of course.
Can someone explain this to a person who grew up in a Rhineland model based society that is now fast adopting the Anglo Saxon model (the Netherlands).
Perhaps, Monty Python has some insights?
a breach of even 1p would trigger a fine of £83.30
Sounds extremely, extremely stupid. A breach of 1p should trigger repayment of 1p.
Also, a person should be notified at once, at the latest next month.
Also, why does the system even allow people to claim more than they are entitled? Is there no maximum set into the payment field or whatever they have for it?
To be clear it’s not a “claim.” If you are full time caring for a member of the family you are entitled to get some money as a benefit, but only if you earn less than £196.00 (inclusive) per week. Because it was setup by the tories, if you earn more, you are no longer eligible and need to pay back the whole amount, instead of it being a sliding scale where earning more is subtracted from the stipend.
If it’s anything like unemployment insurance claims, you could possibly be entitled to different amounts every week depending on whether you made income. But it’s odd that it lets you get more than the max.
If the punishment for deliberately claiming more in benefits than you’re entitled to is simply to repay the benefits then there’s no incentive to not do it. If you get caught then you’re no worse off than if you’d not broken the law so why not do it?
Having said that, if the punishment for accidentally claiming more than you’re entitled to is so harsh then that is unfair.
I’d imagine that the process for both of the scenarios is the same but it definitely should have some human element in it where intent is taken into account.
The system should protect people from that by having proper checks before the money is paid out.
Unless your rich and break the law then the fine you a small amount relatively speaking and you made more by breaking the law.
Starmer is working hard to force the working poor into bankruptcy.
Wtf is happening in the UK???
The same report released in May found the DWP had known since 2021 that overpayment of Carer’s Allowance has left some people in financial difficulty.
Remind me when were last general elections again? Another conservative mine they left hanging about by sweeping it under the rug.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20jln81w72o
Not a fan of labour but please give credit where its due, as to which government did nothing first.
The government currently in power is fully responsible as they could stop it entirely, they choose not to and are complicit.
“Fully responsible” huh? Like on day 1, or is there some sort of grace period? How long does a gov have to review all historic legislation? Is your timeframe based on empiric evidence or hopes and dreams? Why aren’t the individuals who wrote and passed it “fully responsible”? Or does their culpability end the moment they vacate office?
Last I checked the current UK Government have been in for nearly a year.
They would have been aware of this legislation when it passed as it’s not like the politicians are born on election day.
A current majority government is always responsible for how the government is running.
Bureaucracy moves pretty slowly i think. We’ve got another few years to find out for sure.
This smells of “thanks Obama” lol
