The morality of torturing children cause they’re not from the chosen people.

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    I mentioned in my comment from the start and before making any edit that this cannot belong to the jewish religon. Same thing happened with ISIS who adopted a false supremacist murderous and evil idology of Islam. They enslaved Yazidi women and slaughtered kids and men whom they viewed as not from the chosen people.
    How the fuck was ISIS bad but Zionism is supported by Europe and the US and Western values? ISIS never represented Islam the same way Zionism does not represt Judaism. ISIS mirrors Zionism to the tee btw. They were colonizing lands that was promised to them by god, slaughtering and raping people for their promised Khalifite who will lead their people to rule the world. They also needed a country for them to escape “the prosecution” they experienced everywhere in the world to practice their idology. Does ISIS have the right to exist??

    So lets not pretend these monsters dont exist regardless of what they claim their belief is; We judge them by their actions. The Episten files showed him and Donald Trump impregnating and aborting a mentally disabled kid numerous times. Also showed him mocking a girl who was asking Jesus for help because he absolutely does not believe in any god. Also showed his 1500 galons of acid tank that is connected to the swerage system beneath. There is an ongoing investigation regarding missing bodies in his NM ranch. There is hard undeniable evidence that this monsterous elite Epestien class exist and they do everything above the laws without shred of humanity.

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      Isn’t there a decent amount of evidence that ISIS is in fact, the IDF. ?

      False flag operation.

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          Weird how ISIS only targets other Muslims.

          Even though it’s legit against the Muslim religion to kill other Muslims.

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            Even though it’s legit against the Muslim religion to kill other Muslims.

            Not really. Islam has a lot of denominations and interpretations of the quran. ISIS justify killing of other muslims as that these muslims are “kuffar” because they have not actively implemented the teachings of Allah and are silent and complicit in not implementing sharia law.

            Some denominations would say that those muslim people are ignorant and so there’s no blame to be put on them. ISIS’s sees that ignorance is not an execuse because in their opinion it is every muslim’s duty to learn their religion, and that if they did, they’d see that they must implement sharia law.

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              They have very strict laws about murder and violence in their holy book.

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      As an ex-muslim. I’d like to correct you that everything that ISIS did is mentioned in Quran and is actually a valid interpretation. In fact, a lot of it is mentioned directly by hadith and verses in the quran. Hence why you will never hear any religious institution calling them “kuffar” or people who have strayed and adopted a false supremacist view. They just really can’t do that because everything ISIS did can, and is justified by the quran and hadith.

      However, that is NOT to be taken in an islamaphobic way. The majority of the muslim population have no idea about this, as was I when I was still muslim. Simply because we don’t get taught in schools about it. Islam is a cancer, it has the potential to be used to justify horrible atrocities because the quran and hadith contain so much shit like this. Just like any religion really, but it also happens to be overrun by extremists who spread their extremist views.

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        Isis was armed and paid by Israel. Religions are theaters of the class war, not ennemies in themselves

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          Religions are tools to control the masses and yes the rich use them for this purpose. Thus it should eventually be dismantled if possible, or restrained at least. Because when religious institutions have too much power and influence we can agree that nothing good happens out of it.

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        No one cares too much about what their book says. We dont care if someone said they follow the Satanic Temple; however we judge them on what they actually do. Zionism is a genocidal settler-colonial cult idology, and its followers inflect evil inhumanity and injustice and pain violating every humanright and crime in international laws, and any interpretation of humans moral norms…

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      No, this is the Jewish religion. They believe you do not have a divine soul, you are inherently lesser, you will be a slave to them when their messiah returns, and if you read about any of their heinous beliefs in the Talmud you should be killed. This is the consequence of allowing a religous ethnostate to control the most controversial region of the world.

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          Hey speaking of. Have you ever wonder why he wouldn’t shave his sideburns and slicks them back, or why many staffers came out in 2019 and said he converted to Judaism with his daughter.

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            Israelis get unlimited privilages from Zionism even if they were atheists and dont believe shit on the inside; They get to basically kill people and steal their free homes without accountability under Israel’s aparthied judiciary, they get richer from land theft, and occupation, and survaliance control, and aparthied enslavement of Palestinians, and wars on neighboring countriea, and when they spend $250 millions bribing US congress, they get $15 billions back.

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              It’s an ethnic religion. Even the atheist jews are included in end time prophecy where jews will rule the world with all of us as slaves. Of course they benefit from genocide and expansion of a jewish state and bribing, lobbying, or blackmailing politicians in the world’s strongest country to support them.

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    Humanity needs to decide what level of barbarism we will collectively tolerate.

    Israel has been way over the line for a while.

    If we allow them, Team Trump, and the rest of the greed first lobby to continue, i can only hope for total and complete nuclear destruction.

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      There needs to be a better way to enforce geneva conventions and UN resolutions for countries at the top. Otherwise they’ll only bring them up when it’s convenient for them.

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      I mean we’ve been allowing this shit to happen all over the world, and worse – it’s just not in the news because news about israel gets more clicks

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      Humanity needs to decide what level of barbarism we will collectively tolerate.

      Historically, the bar has been set extraordinarily low. But that’s largely based on the question of informed consent. Articles like this aren’t going to show up on FOX or ABC or CBS, so long as the people perpetrating the crimes are Israeli. By contrast, if an Iranian or Russian or Chinese or <insert scary country here> police force engaged in such an act, it would be held up as an excuse for carpet bombing their power plants and assassinating their university professors.

      If we allow them

      We aren’t in a position to allow or disallow without a large scale mobilization of labor. Even then, a lot of what you’re talking about begins with boring bureaucratic shit like petitions and marches. The violence doesn’t just go away because some pollster can show a broad public disgust (for - again - events the major Western media isn’t interested in covering).

      Without assess to mass media, the public remains broadly uninformed and disinterested. Without a mobilized labor movement, there is no organizational support for individual dissent.

      Even when such things do exist (Italian and Spanish citizens have been at the forefront of the BDS movement), there are countervailing forces among the plutocracy that obstruct material change.

      The belief that you can unilaterally or rapidly affect sweeping international policy changes - that you are some Great Man of History who has volunteered to be apathetic - is going to drive you insane, if you let it.

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      The fact that people aren’t talking about sudan and Myanmar where worse happens is telling, but this has better video coverage.

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    It’s just splendid that world gets to watch a genocidal colonial settler project akin to what European colonial powers were up to two hundred years ago all because Britain promised land to a group of people one hundred years ago. For an empire that loved beuraucracy how were they such absolute shit at drawing borders? I mean we know they believed in a global race based caste system (they believed white people were born superior) and were antisemitic enough to be excited at the prospect of Jewish people leaving their country but how do you fuck up the world this bad? Major skill issue in my opinion.

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        Oh America is as if not more accountable.

        I decided to focus on where this started. It’s well known that America is the successor of the British empire. There was a massive transfer of wealth or colonial loot that occurred when the Nazis absolutely decimated Britain, as the Brits spent essentially all of their savings on weapons purchases from America.

        America acquired two thirds of the worlds gold through world war II which allowed it to subsequently establish the Breton Woods system, kicking off its past 75 years of empire.

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      there’s a lot wrong with this comment. Israel was created as the league of nations pressured Britain Into creating a home for the Jewish populations displaced after the wars. other counties weren’t happy to take that population and the Jews themselves wanted to return to what they saw as they’re homeland. after WW1 Britain pledged support for their right to a nation and offered to help set that up but it wasn’t until 1947 when the united nations voted for their partition plan that it was decided to decide the land up into separate Arab and Jewish states. the Jews agreed, the arabs didn’t, and when in 1948 Israel declared independence (a joke I know considering their need for American support has never wanted) they and the Arab states were immediately in opposition and have been ever since. blame Britain and white people lol you want but actually they were wonky ever trying to help a people displaced by terrible persecution and who were unwanted by the rest of the world. it seems they still are, so maybe they have a point about that persecution…

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    In some ways we should be treating the state of Israel as a serial killer. Obviously we and any courts are better knowing about this. But should we be concerned that publication changes behaviour?

    In some ways “hopefully” they are brazen and psychologically disturbed enough that it doesn’t. Because this baby could’ve quite easily just disappeared, if they thought this coming out would make them look worse. I’m sure it’s happened.

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    A news Site controlled by the turkish goverment. Are there any better sources on this topic?

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      Media BiaS FacT CheCk is a guy with a marketing degree in his basement

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        GroundNews also rates Anadolu Ajansi as a “Mixed Factuality” news source. Will check, if I can find more sources to this one.

        No search on Ground News seems to provide anything on this article. It’s not (yet?) listed on it.

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          Ground News uses Media Fact Base Bullshit that’s, again, a guy in his basement without any political science qualification. It only survive on sponsoring youtubers.

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    I was permanently banned on reddit for commenting under this exact story that I think Islamic terrorists maybe have a point.

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      Well it maybe would have a point if they blew up IDF soldiers and not some random train station in Europe or a stadium full of kids and teenagers. All that achieves is more hatred against regular Muslims.

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        My comment didn’t accurately express that I meant it about the terrorist acts against Israel.

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          They’re not terrorists. They’re resisting the occupation of their lands. the only terrorists are the Zionist demons who gloat about the children they torture and kill.

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      These are for sure the reasons why humans decide to become terrorists

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    John Yoo rides again

    Cassel: If the President deems that he’s got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person’s child, there is no law that can stop him?

    Yoo: No treaty.

    Cassel: Also no law by Congress. That is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo.

    Yoo: I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.