• BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world
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      Civilization (noun):The stage of human social and cultural development and organization that is considered most advanced.

      The definition Oxford Languages uses is:

      “they equated the railroad with progress and civilization”

      I hate to say it, but Trump used the correct definition of civilization in regards to his destruction of civilian infrastructure. It doesn’t imply genocide.

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        That’s not the meaning of civilization he’s using.

        The Oxford Learners Dictionary you used also defines one of the meanings as

        a society, its culture and its way of life during a particular period of time or in a particular part of the world

        That’s the definition he’s using, and it’s definitely genocide.

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          Lol thank you for teaching that other commenter about how words can have multiple meanings.

          Also, if you’re bickering about the definition of ‘civilization’ when you’re talking about what constitutes genocide, you’re probably committing genocide.

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        Infrastructure can’t “die”. He’s taking about people, their culture, and everything that makes them who they are. He’s not talking about bridges.

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        I had the same “well technically” thought at first but destroying that much infrastructure will result in some immediate deaths and mass casualties later. So maybe not technically genocide but in reality it’s close.

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          I’m not sure what my argument is exactly; I looked up the definition of civilization because I was bored and was shocked when Trump’s statement made literal sense.

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    I’m looking at the /r/conservative subreddit right now. Of the comments that weren’t removed (and there aren’t that many, that place is a partisan shithole and a comment graveyard), it’s just accusations of Iranian bots, claims that the Democrats are clutching at pearls, and mental gymnastics claiming that this is part of Trump’s playbook…

    How many world leaders have you seen make vulgar and genocidal threats like Trump has over the last few days?

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      How many world leaders have you seen make vulgar and genocidal threats like Trump has over the last few days?

      I can think of another one of the criminal, Bibi Netanyahu.

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      I’ve seen a good amount of people at least saying its a bad look for trump at least… some are still clinging on though… idk…

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    If the stupid US laws don’t persecute this war criminal, international court should. There’s more than enough evidence.

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    This is a pretty straightforward declaration of genocidal intent. If the Americans bomb civilian infrastructure, there is a credible case for accusing them of Genocide in the Hague.

    EDIT: Historian Timothy Snyder also identified it as such, pointing that this creates legal liabilities up and down the American state: https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-president-speaks-genocide

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    • Trump will again chicken out.
    • He thought (or made to believe) Regime change in Iran will a walk in the park.
    • Given the situation he is currently in, he just wants to save his face by any mean.
    • Dropping Nuke is biggest threat he can think of.
    • He don’t have the guts to follow it through.
    • He will just extend the deadline, or declare himself a winner and left Middle East to its fate.
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    I for one am very thankful for our beautiful Democratic Party, which while all this craziness has entered a fever pitch, they have been loudly and boldly speaking out against this every minute of the day and not focusing on unimportant matters like trying to trash talk Hasan Piker and taking personal vacations to the beach.

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    Now I’m sincerely hoping it’s gonna be another TACO Tuesday and Trump wimps out at the last second like he always does.

    How he hasn’t been 25th Amendmented yet is beyond me…

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    He’s going to nuke them ,almost the same words were used moments before the hiroshima bombing

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      Low key concerned he’s gonna try to use nukes tonight

      Lets look at the repercussions of that;

      Next day global stock markets drop to near zero, combine that with runs on all banks as everyone tries to get to cash at the same time.

      All countries stop doing business or trade with US government and US companies.

      All countries nationalize their own oil production and refuse to sell any to the US or the open market (if there even is one).

      Global depression / famine follows lasting at least a decade, while other regional conflicts turn into full blown wars, dragging most other nearby countries into them (literal world war 3).

      Im not sure why trump thinks threatening to destroy or nuke Iran will somehow stabilize the region or the globe, it will do the exact opposite

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        There are multiple accounts and articles indicating that orangeboi has wanted to throw some nukes around since the beginning of his first stint. And now all the adults and career professionals in places where they could stop him have been replaced with sycophants. So idk, man, feels like a lot more of a roll of the dice than it should be.

        Also, why do people keep insisting that orangeboi is governed by any semblance of a rational framework? He’s not. He’s demonstrably not. Stop sanewashing this shit.

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        All countries stop doing business or trade with US government and US companies.

        Not even a single country would do it. US is a bully that will never have any repercussions.