• TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Honestly they’re correct. Putin at least seems somewhat predictable and he’s definitely more intelligent.

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        4 months ago

        Do you really not understand that intelligence is relative and that even different stupid people can be smarter than each other? I’m pretty sure you get that.

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          How did you deduce that? Putin isn’t more intelligent than trump, because someone intelligent wouldn’t have attacked the ukraine. I’m saying they’re both idiots.

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              Sure, all I’m saying is someone significantly more intelligent wouldn’t have attacked ukraine. People seem to disagree.

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                Tbh, I think it’s that you say putins not smarter than trump, instead of not much smarter. That may be hyperbole, but people are going to treat it as though it’s what you believe unless you specify like you do here

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                  Yeah, fair enough. I believe in the end there’s no way to measure their true intelligence from afar and just based on their actions anyway.

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    Putin is finished, he is a walking dead together with the Russian Empire he wanted to create.
    But we need to support Ukraine more, so this stupid war isn’t prolonged more than necessary. When the war is over both Ukraine and EU will prosper.

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      We need to help Ukraine win ASAP so that we can redirect our military resources to defending ourselves against the United States.

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    US invading Iran is similar to Putin invading Brazil btw distance-wise. Which one can you imagine ever happening?

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        One military historian’s analysis I’ve seen on this issue posits that the fact the US joined in on Israel’s strike last year (Twelve-Day War) put them in a position where they’d be involved in this action too, like it or not. The logic goes as follows:

        When Israel bombed Iranian nuclear facilities in June, Iran didn’t actively treat the US as a party of that war. Sure, the US did intercept missiles aimed at Israel, but that’s what you’d expect from a defensive partner, so long as they didn’t actually join the offensive.

        But on June 22nd, the US did join the offensive and directly bombed targets in Iran. Then and only then did Iran also target a US base, because now they had become an aggressor. The lesson Iran would draw from this is that, for any action Israel took, the US would possibly (likely, even) join in. As the historian put it:

        Remember, the fellow getting bombed does not get to carefully inspect the flag painted on the bomber: stuff blows up and to some degree the party being attacked has to rapidly guess who is attacking them.

        Accordingly, any Israeli attack might result in counterattacks also preemptively targeting US bases, since it’s plausible that they would be part of this offensive - whether now or later doesn’t matter. This means that the US, in turn, would be involved in any war Israel starts. If Netanyahu informs the US of a planned attack, it’s no longer just a matter of Trump being his buddy, but a strategic necessity to participate and try to make the attack as decisive as possible to minimise the response.

        Of course, the Twelve-Day War participation could be justified by the worry over nuclear proliferation due to Iran stockpiling enriched uranium. According to the International Atomic Energy Agency, Iran had upheld their end of the Iran Nuclear Deal and frozen its nuke program in 2015 in exchange for a limited lifting of sanctions but resumed it after the US withdrew from that deal in 2018.

        That withdrawal from “the worst deal ever” had been a campaign promise already, but the actual announcement that the US would no longer comply with the plan happened a week after unsubstantiated claims that Iran had violated the terms, which were made by…

        Netanyahu.

        So yes, Netanyahu probably did goad Trump into reneging on a deal without an actual alternative plan, laying the groundwork to later say “See, we need to stop them from the consequences of your actions”, in turn putting the US in a position where joining an Israeli attack on Iran became a strategic necessity.


        Fucking supremacist fucks fucking everyone else for their fucked up delusions. Trump is a malicious idiot, but the greater threat are the malicious manipulators that know just how to pull his strings.

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        Unnecessary distinction. Trump is choosing to do all of this. A lot of people probably have a lot of dirt on him, but he’s still making his own choices.

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          Given his current level of lucidity, I doubt he’s capable of independent thought as he still has some hangers-on and aides who appear incompetent but actually have plans of their own, pushing the bastard to approve of their ideas. That he is also but a product of a game long played by vested interests: Roger Stone, the anti-climate Mercers, the Christofascists behind Project 2025, the oligarchy in general, and of course the Chinese and Russians who’d found him the perfect agent of influence.

          He’s so fucking smug, so convinced to be winning but is truly isolating and destroying the US from the inside and indirectly benefiting the new hegemonies realigning the world order.

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        I think we’ve reached the point in geopolitics where there’s half-a-dozen hands pulling on any one person’s strings.

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    I used to joke about my children having to fight in the “Trump Wars” during his first term. Then he got reelected. It’s not funny anymore.

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      We also inspired the top-troglodyte who sparked WW2 with our treatment of indigenous people and the treatment of migrants at the Southern Border.

      And then hired a bunch of the Nazis after WW2, like the first head of NASA who admitted to using forced labor and engineered (some of? all of?) the rockets shot at Britain.

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    Not just peace but business in general. The man is fucking famous for bankrupting everything he touches for crying out loud

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      I think they all see it, but are scared to say it out loud in case he gets activated. Like when you see youre being watched late at night. You dont run and scream immediately you sort of walk a tiny bit faster trying not to let them know that you know because that’ll trigger the chase.

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    So do we Americans.

    Let these escapades serve as an example that, outside of the Epstein Class, people’s only power here is local.

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    Is Trump actually taller than Putin? I never cared about height but I know in political photo ops that’s a big deal.

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      Putin is notoriously short and Trump is around 6" and he also wears lifts. Trump is huge compared to Putin.