• ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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      28 days ago

      There is an absolute metric shitload of proven scientific evidence that smoke inhalation causes lasting damage to developing lungs and hearts. Do you deny this scientific evidence?

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        28 days ago

        I took it to mean that we should protect everything and everybody, not just the children. I could be wrong in my interpretation.

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      29 days ago

      “To protect children” is a stupid reason

      Just depends on what sells the legislation. People can be very entitled but they might bend if it’s to “protect the children”

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      Replace “children” with “non-consenting people” and you’re getting close. Children are the most non-consenting people in society and deserve special protection accordingly.

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      I’d argue the less prevalent smoking is in public the less likely children will turn to smoking in the future. makes sense to me

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      It works in this case. I believe developing lungs are more susceptible to damage plus children have more life ahead of them to live with damaged lungs. Most importantly we want them to have the opportunity to live without the lung damage we already have.

      And of course the practical reason is they already can’t smoke. You’re not taking anything away from them

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    You could say smoking is one of the most human activities ever. Does nothing but actively harm and potentially kill everything around you. Just what we’re the best at.

    But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?

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    Good i hope more countries adopt this. Türkiye is terrible for this, lovely country and people but there are smokers almost everywhere.

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    This comment section is a disaster, just as bad as reddit. Comments of no substance on the side of popular opinion get upvotes, and waves of downvotes come for anyone who disagrees even a little, and even if they do it in a reasonable way.

    I’m mildly asthmatic so I don’t smoke, vape, etc. I have tried a few times and it is simply too much for my lungs to cope with. I still think banning people from smoking in public parks or on beaches is a bit much, and not doing the same with vaping seems like a strange double standard. I had a college roommate who both vaped and smoked, and the vaping bothered me more. I still put up with it.

    Hopefully enforcement is reasonable - respectful smokers who deliberately try to keep their distance should be allowed to enjoy themselves, but I understand prosecuting(?) those who show no care and smoke right next to nonsmokers.

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      29 days ago

      You just need to find the right community preferably where there are no bots, trolls

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      There’s one section of benches on my town common that smells like cigarettes from all the way over on the sidewalk. Even if it’s empty. There are so many smokers that the stink won’t go away even though it’s outside. Why do they get to ruin that section of park for everyone else?

      We have this one park with a small beach section. They try to rope off a s,all smoking section away from everyone else, but you can still smell it. Why do they get to ruin the public beach for everyone else?

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      28 days ago

      all the more reason. what’s the point of banning something if no one’s doing it

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      In cliché world yeah… But in reality, not so much. 😀

      It been years… no… decades that smoking have nearly disappeared around me - including in the office.

      I work with hundreds of people and the amount of people smoking can fit one hand. 25 years ago, i needed more than 2 hands to count them. And in my family, nobody starting at my parents generation and younger smokes.

      Same story with wine during lunch. 25 years ago, it was several bottles each day at lunches.

      Today, no more wine bottle and the trend started since easily 15 years now. Only for big occasion and the quantity have decreased a lot.

      People drink more beers now. But far less than wine.

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    LOL like here in Montreal I see people smoking right next to the “No smoking within 3 meters” or whatever sign.

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    Europeans should get a new hobby, smoking is gross and you smell like burnt shit

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    I like these laws but also I want to smoke in some places. I’d love a return of places like cigar lounges and whisky bars

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    Protests bigger than anti-Trump ones in the US incoming in 3…2…1…

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    Dang, France is really about to take away the one thing that the USA has always been ahead of them on.

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    To protect children, meanwhile the soil is filled with cancer-inducing products pumped away illegally by big chemistry plants. In belgium and netherlands we can barely eat our own produce thanks to this. When are we gonna ban them??

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    I love how everyone supporting this just assumes you’ll still be able to smoke at your own home when it doesn’t saying anything of the sort. It explicitly states ‘where children COULD be present’. This is literally everywhere short of some BDSM dungeon. This is basically going to make the population choose between smoking and having kids.

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      Which actually sounds fair. Kids do not choose to be born and do not need to inhale smoke because parents are addicted to smoking

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      This is basically going to make the population choose between smoking and having kids.

      Hell I’d start smoking again.

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      Well No, those laws usually only apply to Public areas, so as to Not Hurt your right of doing jackshit in your Home. At least the cannabis law in Germany has been designed Like it (but alas, cannabis is Not as much detrimental to the health of people around one as Smoking is).

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    I was in Paris just after the Olympics ended and I don’t think I smelled any tobacco at all. Marseille? Cigarettes everywhere. I couldn’t even enjoy eating at the cafés.