Yeah, it’s really fucking bad. Pair that with more and more restrictive demonstration laws and regulations, the proscription of Palestine Action which was already shot down by their own legal system as ‘baseless’, etc etc etc
It’s just Starmer’s leg up to another cushy job and nothing else. And Labour really showed us what Labour has become: a soulless job machine for the rich and careless. They may as well call themselves Tories at this point.
What the actual hell happened to Labour? Who can the left turn to now? Is it worth trying to salvage?
What the actual hell happened to Labour?
The Party bureaucrats turned on Jeremy Corbyn like lupus.
Someone from the UK trans community would know best but from the news I’ve been following, “Your Party” (i.e. the people aligned with Zarah Sultana at least) could turn out to be the most dedicated to trans rights but they’re probably the least likely to win a seat anytime soon, while the Green Party has the right to self-identify on the platform for both trans and nonbinary folks, and is gaining in momentum. Plaid Cymru in Wales also has this.
I do not have a full accounting of what happened exactly but broad strokes are, Thatcher broke their brains and they went New Labour, meaning they would coddle the capitalists even more than they already had been doing. This kept up, Labour became more about getting fancy jobs, the started and supported deeply unpopular wars (especially unpopular among the left), Labour started tanking again and then they chose racism to try and claw back. The only reason they are in power now is because the Conservatives fucked up so much they became functionally irrelevant. But now the attempts by the cons and labs to out-racism each other will come home to roost with Reform on the horizon, quickly gaining momentum, so Labour and especially Starmer are trying to appease both the soulless capitalists who know the end of this economic cycle is coming (and will be disastrous) and the actual fascists of Reform and their voters. They are chasing fictional voter groups that will never vote for Labour while hemorrhaging their actual voter base to the Greens because hey, wasn’t Labour supposed to not be a fascist island of job-hopping dickholes?
Oh and a lot of social-democrats literally just died. Not even kidding, in statistics a not-insignificant voter base they had just straight up died and now Labour is standing on their graves going ‘please vote for us again, we’re racist now please’
The capitalists need number to go up. They can’t generate more, so offloading costs to and eroding rights of the workers is the easiest way to do it.
The PLP forgot to appeal to their supporter base preferring their middle class London metropolitan elite.
there are a lot of reasons democracy is threatened in the uk, trans rights and palestinian protest are way down the list
Ah yes, cancelling rights (i.e. turning rights to privileges) and using politically charged litigation against citizens, also subverting their rights, is not a threat to democracy, of course! It’s what democracies are known for! Lol
Yea no. Anti-imperialist or ‘leftwing’ movements and gender rights/queer rights are just about the first things that are always targeted because they actually challenge the status quo AND they make for great targets. Especially trans people, because they make for a very small and vulnerable group of people. Many people in the ‘political center’ do not have enough of an issue when these groups are targeted to speak up loudly enough to stop it from happening. And then they’ll come for abortion rights, gay people, etc
It’s very easy to say that when your whole life isn’t at stake
Fuck Rowling. I know she isn’t solely to blame for this but she is part of it
Looks like the UK will face their own MAGA situation.
Democracy is already dead in the UK since the genocide. The rule of law means nothing.
Same thing happened in Germany
Do you mean during the Nazis’ rise to power or recently?
I was referring to this specific event: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_für_Sexualwissenschaft#Raids_and_book_burnings
tf u talkin about?
Nazis first bigoted actions was going against LGBTQ, Especially trans. The first book burning was Hirshfield’s institute of sexology.
This person raised a valid fucking question. The book burnings OP mentions is of over fucking 90 years ago. This is a news page. Fucking specify if it is about nazi Germany instead of current politics. Bunch of twats down voting
This isn’t normal, we can feel the rise of Reform UK…
I think the true collapse of democracy will come with Reform UK or Restore Britain.
Only males that own land should be able to vote, the rest have not shown the responsibility required to vote for the status quo.
I’ve put up with a few years of shit from brits bitching about how weak “yanks” (Americans) are for allowing things to happen.
come on limeys, show us Americans how it’s done! show us how to fix your government! no complaints either!
looks at the rest of Europe
you’re next, don’t be laughing.
edit: oh yeah, this is world news not limey news. go post this on the BBC, nobody wants to hear about your problems.
Your anger is severely misplaced.
I interpreted their commend as aggressive encouragement for people to fight for their rights, which I find kinda goofy and nice.
I misinterpret stuff a lot though, how did they actually mean it?
I detect way more vitriol in that comment
why would I be angry? I’m simply returning the kindness the limeys have given us yanks for the last year.
This is basically you right now
let me fix that for you.
this is what has been going on for the last year at least.
That edit was savage!
Paywall
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The orange band across the screen can be closed at the upper LEFT side. 🤡PS:
Thanks for the downvote unhelpful user. 🙄Start
Bitch, you still have a king
The king is not a problem for democracy in UK.
FPP and house of lords are.
Some of the most democratic nations are constitutional monarchies, but let’s ignore that little factoid lest we upset some Americans…
That being said, I agree with you. The UK definitely needs democratic reform. The House of Lords being largely unelected and the House of Commons being elected through first-past-the-post is outdated at this point, and needs updating.
The king is not a problem for democracy in UK.
The queen’s gambit — new evidence shows how Her Majesty wields influence on legislation
Seems like the monarchy has significant influence
1 poorly documented example from 1973! That’s more than half a century ago.
Also the Queen had absolutely zero power to leverage influence on law givers, and the article doesn’t mention that any was used. So if she actually managed to influence the law, it must have been because the politicians responsible for it, thought it was reasonable.
The hypothetical corruption in this situation is not by the Queen, but by the politicians.1 poorly documented example
Looks like you didn’t read the article
Meh. I don’t dispute that there are issues for democracies at the moment. But one of the issues is that the “right-wing” nutjobs often have a few legitimate concerns regarding equity programs, which can function as gateways, enticing people down those paths of thinking. And if anyone raises those more moderate concerns, left-wing progressives attack en masse, practically pushing people along those extremist paths at a faster pace. That gets even more problematic given the electoral systems that’re in place, as well as the general “two sides” structure of many democratic countries.
So while I’d agree that something like an official end to all trans-related rights initiatives would be a negative sign for democracies, I definitely wouldn’t call it the ‘Start’ of the collapse.
Does that mean we only had Democracy when Trans Rights were introduced?
Like, if the removal is the end of democracy, then is the opposite also true?
Do you clap with your fingers spread?
I mean, I’ve never done it until just now. Turns out it works just fine. What’s your point?
