Donald Trump was deliberately left in the dark about Ukraine’s unprecedented drone strike in Russia on Sunday, which destroyed nearly a third of the Kremlin’s strategic bomber fleet in a surprise attack.

The large-scale drone attack saw a fleet of drones scattered all across Russia carry out simultaneous attacks on five airbases, wiping out 40 irreplaceable military bombers worth an estimated $7 billion, which have been used to reign terror upon Ukrainian civilians.

“Operation Spider-Web” took over 18 months to plan and was personally overseen by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a source told CBS News.

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    Why would anyone even consider telling any politicians of foreign nations about a top secret project like that, much less blabbermouths like Donald Trump?

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      Between nations that share trust and respect, theoretically, it would give them time to reposition themselves to the coming reality, and perhaps more importantly, give any assets they have in the area a warning to keep their heads down/not step on any toes.

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        Even at the height of WW2 the Allies kept secrets from each other. Churchill had no idea the US had the Atom Bomb until it was deployed.

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          There’s going to be a bit of contextual nuance when deciding whether to share intelligence and when. I’d bet if we had a respectable statesperson friendly to Ukraine’s plight leading this country we would have gotten a few days notice at least.

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        You are confusing nations with people. You can’t trust a nation (or any other organization), you can only trust individuals because an organization can always contain individuals of diametrically opposed behaviors.

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      Yeah, frankly I think it wouldn’t even be good to tell Biden about it, he would likely discourage from that move. At best he would pretend he did not know about it.

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      I would be more curious to know if there is anyone downstream of Trump working within the Pentagon/CIA that’s still actively coordinating US intelligence with Ukranian forces.

      Like, is the entire US military cut out of Ukrainian operations at the NATO level. Or is some faction within the Joint Chiefs pulling a SpaceX and giving Trump/Hegseth the Elon Musk busy-box while they run things outside his purview?

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    As is appropriate.

    I’m trying to recall a disco song from, I believe, the 1970s whose lyrics in the chorus went somewhat like the following - though I might be mistaken:

    “That’s the way uh-huh, uh-huh, I like it, uh-huh, uh-huh”

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      Exactly. As a courtesy they might give trusted allies a few hours notice, or at least inform them when the op has started. But unless they needed the assistance of an ally in planning and preparing such an attack then informing anybody well ahead of time serves no useful purpose at all.

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        No US weaponry was used in this righteous attack either, literally no reason to put the US in the loop

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      Ukraine is a sovereign country

      NATO to the left of me. Putler to the right.

      Ukraine’s a few steps shy of Kurdistan when it comes to sovereignty. They don’t even bother with elections anymore, given how much of the country is contended or outright occupied. So much of the killing and the dying is about changing that.

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        If it’s been said to a Russian troll once, it’s been said a thousand times now. Ukraine’s constitution doesn’t allow for elections during a state of war.

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        So much of the killing and the dying is about changing that.

        What the actual fuck are you saying? Are you implying that Russia is doing Ukraine a favor by initiating the killing so Ukraine can become part of Russia to avoid the killing that Russian could’ve simply not done?

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      He would have literally called Putin and tried to make a ‘deal’ the second he heard any plans

      I don’t like this planet anymore 👍

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    Plans love silence.

    And it’s never been truer. Doesn’t even matter who sits in White House, strictly Ukrainian business that had to pass through as little ears as possible.

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    Should have fed him a false location and then monitored Putin’s move. Would have confidently proven that tRump is an asset if moves were made to the fake target. Trap this fucker and then public punishment!

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      Should have fed him a false location and then monitored Putin’s move.

      Putin, the Saudis, Israel, FIFA…

      Trump’s White House possibly has the highest listening-devices-per-sqft of any office on the planet. I wonder if signal interference is a problem.

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        I can just see Putin, Saudis, Netanyahu sitting around a table bickering about who gets the best bandwidth from listening equipment at the oval office, because little children just refuse to share…

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        Hopefully, we don’t hear about some intelligence agent with a new book coming out in the future regarding how tRump was a known asset for the Kremlin and how he was caught red-handed giving info to Putin in some false-flag operation.

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    There is nothing anyone should discuss with Cheeto, he is dumb and works for russians. There is absolutely no value in that person, he is a completely worthless useless being.

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    LOOK AT THE FIREPLACE! No fake spray gold ornamentation! What the shit?!? Is the Oval Office a reality tv show set? Compare the fireplace from when Zelenskyy visited to Ramaphosa’s visit on May 25:

    That’s some heinous Temu-quality decor! stay classy USA

    🤡

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      I’ll bet he picked out all that shiny crap all by himself. Probably had a blast looking through some tacky catalogue, picking out the most ostentatious tchotchkies, knowing that the government was picking up the tab. Only real gold for the president, none of that gold-plated garbage.

      I’ll bet he takes it all home with him as well. We can fix that by putting him in a jail cell for life, then auction off this gold crap to pay for his keep.

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      He would have blabbed it to the press. In the mideast. When asked “what do you think of the heat?”

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      This first time I saw this headline I was like “YEAH, why would they???”

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    Even if he weren’t a Russian simp, why would Ukraine tell anyone? An 18 month long attack is just tooo much invested to risk losing the surprise