• ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    I watched a video on this recently. Really interesting, especially how the researchers figured out it was a Russian satellite in a really high orbit. All it takes is a low-power burst to overwhelm the GPS network because it runs on such low powered, sensitive signals. They theorize the Russians were testing for very brief windows to see how well it world work. They could jam these signals anywhere over the Earth. Same for other nations too.

    • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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      16 days ago

      I watched the Veritasium episode on it just yesterday! The other theory is that it was actually being used for covert signals and the disruption was secondary.

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        16 days ago

        Considering the impact of these tests, that doesn’t seem likely. You wouldn’t be sending covert messages in a way that would be so heavily scrutinized. I know it was a theory presented during the video, but that’s just journalistic integrity.

        And ultimately, even if they were covert messages, now they also know they can disrupt gps

      • Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world
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        16 days ago

        I thought that was the cover story. They deliberately used a channel partially in the bandwidth for some deniability. It isn’t like they didn’t know what bandwidth GPS used when they designed the satellite.

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          15 days ago

          If I recall correctly, the idea was that they might have used that part of the band deliberately so that it couldn’t be jammed without also jamming GPS. Either way, we’re just guessing.

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        16 days ago

        last I checked that channel was owned by private equity so take it with a grain of salt

  • dogslayeggs@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    Most people don’t know how unbelievably fucked the world would be if Russia did this on a consistent basis. The entire stock market runs on GPS for nanosecond timing of trades. Shipping, trucking, trains, planes all use GPS. Sure, all of them CAN operate without GPS, but the delays would be enormous because of how efficient GPS is and how automated a lot of things are. Communications systems use GPS for timing to sync up. Farms use GPS for accurate planting and picking of vegetables.

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      16 days ago

      If Russia did this to the world they’d be declaring war on everyone. China wouldn’t stand for it and they would likely act.

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        16 days ago

        Yeah, like, what nation wouldn’t see this as an act of war if deployed on a targeted and continous scale?

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        15 days ago

        The thing is, China has their own GNSS called Beidou (pronounced like Play-Dough if I’ve been informed correctly). China has spent the last 10 years convincing non-aligned countries (Brazil and most of South America, many African nations, etc) to switch to using it instead of GPS. An attack by Russia would be “condemned” by China but would actually be a boon to them and their allies. Europe has their own GNSS, too, but it is much less widely used.

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        15 days ago

        I mean, they have their own system: GLONASS. Their closest ally in China also has their system: Beidou. Many of their trading partners use Beidou or a mix of Galileo (EU’s system) and GPS and any other system in view. They are jamming GPS over a wide swath of territory already, so they know how to handle it within their borders. The world economy would crash, but it would be less of a crash in countries allied with China. Also, Russia’s economy is so fucked right now that a worldwide crash would just be a blip.

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      16 days ago

      GPS is used a lot in logistics for real-time tracking of trains, trucks, wagons and containers. Of course they don’t need GPS to move, but you need it to coordinate transportation. The train needs to be there on time when the ship arrives, the truck needs to be there in time for the train.

      If that process doesn’t work it isn’t only costly, the disruptions propagate. As in your train or flight will be delayed, or you’ll be late for work due to traffic.

      Source: I worked for a logistics company and was responsible for a bug that led to trucks being backed up for kilometers in several locations, requiring the police.

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      16 days ago

      Apparently al these systems use about the same radio spectrum, so you could jam them all with similar signals.

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      14 days ago

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      your trial access to “seeing” has temporarily ended. please pay the milkmen for access to “seeing” again.

  • whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml
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    15 days ago

    Oh no, not something to push people to adopt new block 3 capable receivers!

    Surely they won’t just use $20 glonass or beidou receivers…