• Darkard@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Accounts based in Russia posted lies about the motive for the arson attacks targeting Starmer, which were spread by figures such as far-right anti-Islam activist Tommy Robinson.

    Wow… No way… The supposedly grass roots, organic rise of far right sentiment is being driven by foreign nations hostile to us and who have been found performing acts of sabotage before and funding far right political leaders?

    Shocker…

    • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      These damn brown foreigners ought to go back to their country!

      • Amit types in India

      But seriously, a lot of supposed white far right in social media turned out to be paid trolls based from abroad.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      The supposedly grass roots, organic rise of far right sentiment

      British right wing nationalism has been around for a while

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      11 days ago

      Far right movements are usually started by the domestic bourgeoisie in an attempt to counter rising class consciousness and left-wing solidarity. It’s certainly possible that Russia is amplifying those voices, but the root of the problem is, as always, the aristocracy.

  • teyrnon@sh.itjust.works
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    11 days ago

    I call bullshit. Russia has more ta gain from starmer than any, he’s throwing the country into the arms of Putin’s Reform tools.

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      11 days ago

      The 22-year-old Ukrainian builder had been weaponised to target the UK’s head of government. But by who?

      The handler EL, who directed Lavrynovych, offered Russian citizenship in return for other attacks and glorified President Vladimir Putin, messages the BBC has uncovered show.

      We have identified evidence suggesting that EL is a young Russian diplomat, schooled in information warfare by spies and propagandists, who is close to the highest levels of power in Moscow. His name is Evgeny Lyukshin. He is 23 and the son of a senior official.

      It’s plausible. Russian intelligence services have adopted the same basic tactics used by the CIA, the FBI, SIS, Mossad, and similar services to cultivate extremists as tools of regime change.

      And we’ve got a wealth of evidence to support the theory that these agencies use the Internet as a vector of that radicalization.

      Whether you believe the BBC (an organ of state media) when it pins the blame on one spy agency over another? I guess that depends on how much you trust them.

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        10 days ago

        Secret agencies are alike in that respect: they reveal truth partially and only when it’s beneficial, else they can create a narrative weakly supported by coincidences and ‘evidence’ that wouldn’t hold in most courts.

      • teyrnon@sh.itjust.works
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        10 days ago

        My question, is why would Russian target him? Starmer is doing everything possible to throw the country to Reform. I call bullshit.