• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Naturally.

    there were no clear objectives to begin with. Not even unclear political objectives. It was a war of choice for the sole purpose of distracting the world, and especially US citizens, of all the fucked up shit he was doing. Like Immigration and covering up the Epstein files.

    And guess what. It worked.

    now people are talking about gas prices and grocery prices and the war and not about epstein or his concentration camps.

    • amniotic druid@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      Yeah I haven’t bought this argument since day one of the whole thing. Trump didn’t go to war to distract from Epstein or ICE, at least not as directly as you make it.

      Pre-war polling saw that Trump’s popularity was pretty much unchanged with likely R voters even through last summer, the December vote, and Bondi’s firing. He’s made it very clear he doesn’t feel like he needs to win over new supporters, either, and with both houses still R at least through November, there wasn’t much reason for him to care about Epstein. It was already out of the news and voters were buying the Bondi-scapegoat story.

      The idea that Trump was actually super upset that people were mad about ICE and wanted a distraction is just funny. The show of force, shock, confusion, and coverage was the point, Stephen Miller said as much from day 1, and to reiterate: Trump wasn’t losing any R votes over these policies.

      Right wing media had both of these under control with a good spin on them. There was literally no reason to do something so obviously doomed and tank the one thing every American (apparently) cares about, gas prices, to distract from either of these stories that were already on their way out.

      Trump started a war with Iran because 1) it’s the thing Israel has been begging anyone to back them up on for fifty years and 2) he felt bullet proof (militarily and petrologically) after Venezuela.

      /rant. I had a much better version of this typed up and then refreshed the page and lost it all :-)

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      10 days ago

      He was acting under orders from Netanyahu

      Israel stole even more of Palestine, as well as significant amounts of Lebanon

      They’ll keep stealing more while the rest of the world looks uncomfortably at their shoes for fear of being labelled antisemites

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      10 days ago

      Now hold on there… just give me a generation or two to reassert American Exceptionalism into the children… and by then we will have once again saved a savage people by the grace of our own convictions. Saviors once again, having never done anything wrong.

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    8 days ago

    It’s not justthe money and territory, but also the soft power. How can the US Claim Moral superiority after bombing a girlsschool?

    Iran can thumb their noses and make memes while sending dudes to the gallows for tweeting.

    Truly a disaster.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    America DONALD and BIBI have lost THEIR war with Iran.

    America did not vote for this, did not want it, and did not support it. In fact, America purposely voted against forever wars in 2024.

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      10 days ago

      “There’s an old saying in Tennessee - I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on… shame on you. Fool me - you can’t get fooled again.”

      — George W. Bush

      When you vote for somebody who lied to you their first term, you’re voting for whatever they want their second term.

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      10 days ago

      Every single vote is a way to legitimize the American government and system, the American government was founded on the idea of invading other people. If Americans want to vote against wars maybe they should actually organize and go shoot their politicians instead of voting for the parties that have been nothing but warmongers and coup doers in the past century.