cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/48806122

A license verification certificate expires and when it expires, Microsoft Office for Mac assumes it’s unlicensed even if it has been fully paid for.

So, any idiot who paid for Office 2019 for Mac “perpetual” will lose access to it next month.

The same will happen with Office 2021 and Office 2024 in the future.

Pirates are unaffected, only who paid for the product gets punished

Good job 👍🏻

  • Victor@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Idiots?

    I’m not one of them, but what makes them idiots? Seems kind of uncalled for.

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      9 days ago

      I’m not one of them, but what makes them idiots? Seems kind of uncalled for.

      It’s obviously a play on the common phrase that the honest guy ends up being the idiot. Not because the honest guy is stupid but because the honesty ends up backfiring. It’s used all the time in video game DRM contexts.

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        9 days ago

        It was obviously not obvious to me, but okay. I’ll take your word for it. 🙃

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        7 days ago

        How is it sarcastic? I don’t get it, please explain, and please explain how that makes it better somehow.

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          It’s sarcastic because you obviously aren’t an idiot for buying a lifelong license to a product.

          If anything most of the time it’s supposed to be the right choice (I’m only talking about licenced product, not ownership).

          Especially if it’s a tool you use regularly.

          At no point these people where supposed to “know better and not buy this”. Microsoft just did a rugpull.

          I wasn’t aware of all the bullshit these companies were doing back in 2019, but I recall it wasn’t full blown enshittification yet.

          For your second ask, it doesn’t make it better or lesser, it just adds shock value, engagement baiting.

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            6 days ago

            You’re presenting an argument here which is purely based on logic. I think OP is not sarcastic, but actually believes people are idiots for simply buying Microsoft products. They are just being elitist. That’s my interpretation.

            Could (hopefully) be wrong though! If OP gives another explanation I’m sure that’ll be true.

    • John Richard@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      Anyone who pays to install software from a spyware company is incredibly naive to say the least

      • Victor@lemmy.world
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        9 days ago

        Must be like the vast majority of everyone alive that uses some kind of tech these days, then. 🤷‍♂️ I just felt like the title is over the top a little bit. If it had been in a comment it would’ve made me react less for some reason. 😄

        • John Richard@lemmy.world
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          9 days ago

          I get it. You’re absolutely right it doesn’t make them idiots. Even I’m being hyperbolic to an extent. The real issue is much bigger and doesn’t stop at Microsoft. I get why people feel so powerless and end up going along with the status quo. Really, the fact that we’ve allowed it is more of a reflection on our collective Idiocracy.

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            9 days ago

            It’s only morning here but I feel like this comment is the best interaction online I’m gonna have today.

            Great response. And not because you agree with me but because it was even way more insightful than what I said.

            Have a good one, friend. 🫶

  • Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Rossman posted a video a while ago about how Microsoft updated their site without noting they updated it to gaslight their customers into thinking it’s always said that.

    There’s a reason these companies are trying to kill the archive sites, it lets people call them on their bullshit.

    Edit: YouTube source

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    Victim-blaming is the real stupidity here. Microsoft harasses its customers (again) and now the customers are the idiots?

    This is the same type of propaganda Nvidia is trying to push. Jensen Huang saying “people should have planned better, the rising prices of hardware was imminent” is the exact same tactic of being the cause of the problem and still putting the blame of everyone else.

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    I’m not sure I’m cool with calling people ‘idiots’ in this scenario. We don’t blame the victims of con men when they’re stolen from, and this is the same thing, just on a bigger scale.

    That said, here is the obligatory linking to LibreOffice: https://www.libreoffice.org/

    It’s free and a better choice.

      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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        9 days ago

        I read it as someone kinda being a dick, but it’s the Internet. Meaning isn’t always well-conveyed electronically. That’s why we have the sarcasm tag.

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          9 days ago

          Had you gone as far as the article you would have seen the disclaimer that makes it clear it’s sarcasm.

          • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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            9 days ago

            I did.

            The title of the article is ‘Microsoft is disabling Office 2019 for Mac next month’, which makes it pretty clear that the editorializing of the title here on Lemmy was intended to be a bit dickish, at least to me.

            If I am wrong, cool, but it’s not because I didn’t look at the article.

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      8 days ago

      And for anyone who says in excel I can create a spreadsheet sheet that does this amazing company defining process, I’ll counter that with you can make a calculator in Minecraft. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

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    Not surprised in the least. It’s all about maintaining incoming cash flow.

    They cancelled my Win11 (from purchased Win10 eligible upgrade) key earlier this year when I replaced a failed motherboard.

    Happy to be free of their ecosystem. Should have jumped free long ago.

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    I was about to purchase some legitimate licenses for MS products when this was first announced.

    saved myself the money and trouble and just pirated it.

    fuck em

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      9 days ago

      So that means Microsoft doesn’t need to honor their contracts with users?

      Interesting legal strategy, cotton.

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      9 days ago

      Dunking on tech giants is the only kind of spice that makes modern life palatable.

      • AeronMelon@lemmy.world
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        9 days ago

        Yeah, but dunking on tech giants AND their customers.

        The Verge: “You fool! You fell for one of the classic blunders!”

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    7 days ago

    What lawyerspeak TOS bullshit are they going to cite as a way to avoid refunds and lawsuits?

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      That’s EOL and they won’t do any additional support. Renew certificates is 1 hours of intern effort and 20 bucks, so fuck you.

      *effort and cost made up, but l considering they made billions with office, it’s basically equivalent.

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    9 days ago

    “This will happen to Office 2021 and 2024 in the future”

    not stated by the article

    The Verge article isn’t making any of these ridiculous claims.