Not really windows related but my work wonders why as an IT guy I think it’s a bad idea to force updates the day they come out.
There’s a reason why there is a Windows NT 4 Service Pack 6a…
The company I work for is currently in the process of switching from our own server and email client to Outlook and OneDrive. It’s gonna be a fucking nightmare when we switch.
When my work forced the transition from 10 to 11 is when all of my computer issues began.
Just amazing work coming out of the slopShop recently.
There’s an argument to be made that it’s better than what was previously released, given there are over 200 vulnerabilities to begin with. Though, Microsoft was slop long before AI
200?! Jesus. For what people are paying for it I’d expect 0. Goddamn.
Yeah. My work machine now regularly black screens for up to 30 seconds then comes back. The Adobe Acrobat reader we are forced to use is now so bloated that it freezes the whole machine for up to a minute. What an OS.
Nice.
My employer just switched away from Adobe, so thankfully, haven’t see those issues.
Mine has been doing shit like that for close to a year, the graphics driver is sooooo unstable
I dusted off my 14 year old gaming pc, wiped windows 10 off it and installed Linux .int and hadn’t looked back. Glad my PC wasn’t eligible for a windows 11 upgrade…
So, all in all… A relatively decent Windows update compared to the average?
Clickbait and misleading. Nothing “broke”. The recycling bin works just fine, the name of the file in the confirm delete popup is just displayed wrong.
It isn’t the details or severity of the break that matters.
It’s that the quality control process is SUPPOSED to catch that, and whatever sorry excuse for a process they’re using now ALLOWED a break that was obvious, visible, and repeatable, inside a critical, core function of the operating system, to make it to the end users, something that should trigger as an immediate, flashing warning light. That means the entire quality control process at the very least is SEVERELY compromised and unreliable, and there could very easily be MUCH more severe vulnerabilities and bugs hiding underneath that AREN’T immediately visible. To anyone who has done any professional development for non-disposable code bases, this isn’t a whisper of a problem - it’s an air horn.
Developer written unit tests likely wouldn’t even catch that bug with the recycling bin, because it doesn’t even matter what the text says when it’s being deleted. It’s not a breaking bug. It wouldn’t hold up a release. It might have even been found in QA and might have a super low priority ticket to fix it because again, it’s non breaking and doesn’t affect anything in any way.
You don’t understand how software dev QA works, clearly.
Yeah. I’ve only been a veteran of the process for 20 years - I don’t know a thing about what I’m talking about.
“non-breaking” is a meaningless distinction. What you’re REFERRING to is a “cosmetic” bug, and “cosmetic”, depending on the software and the shop, does NOT mean “acceptable for release”, and FURTHERMORE, this is not a new bug that’s been filed as low priority or will-not-fix, but a REGRESSION because it DID work in the past, which means it’s DOUBLE damning.
I’m not interested in waving around credentials about who knows more about software development - if you work in a shop that doesn’t care about quality, that’s between you and the shop. But if you want to claim that someone at Microsoft said “Yeah, it doesn’t correctly reflect the filename, a critical check to ensure users don’t accidentally delete the wrong file, which is something that’s worked for 30 years” and then signed off on that, instead of the MUCH more likely explanation that NOBODY is looking at ANY of this crap with the detail they should be, I’m afraid I’m going to have to laugh.
To give you an idea, in the XBox division, a division of Microsoft, this would be considered a compliance failure that prevents a game from going gold for launch on the platform, and if caught would cost the developer thousands and weeks to fix before the game could go live because it would necessitate starting the final step of the certification process over again, because EVERY SINGLE TEST has to be run again to ensure JUST this kind of regression doesn’t resurface.
But no - the same company would claim it’s totally acceptable for the operating system that runs bank software because it’s “non-breaking”.
Non-breaking isn’t meaningless - it means it doesn’t break anything. It means it doesn’t affect users, and thus it’s not going to be high priority or be enough to block a release.
They understand it as much as Microsoft does, given the evidence
AI found the exploits, and they clearly used AI to fix the exploits… That about as far as the QC conversation went
So, nothing broke, except the thing that broke. Gotcha.
Broken means it doesn’t work. Everything about the recycling bin functionally works.
My work laptop has windows 11, and for some reason I keep losing my mouse pointer. I’ll boot it up and there will just be no cursor. I can reset my graphics driver (which is what googling suggests), enable and disable my mouse in the hardware manager, tweak all kinds of mouse settings - and nothing. Sometimes opening a pdf in the edge browser brings it back, but it can still disappear afterwords.
Also, pulling up the menu to print something can take several minutes. If I need to change printers on that menu, another several minutes. Sometimes, it’ll just crash the entire program I am trying to print from. It’ll also just ignore some settings occasionally - things like landscape versus portrait.
The search feature in explorer is also absolutely broken. You can type in the exact file name of something and it’ll find everything but that file. Even the “recent files” section is broken.
I don’t understand how anyone at Microsoft thinks Windows 11 is an acceptable product. Do they not use it?
Biggest patch Tuesday ever!
So glad to be off of this shitshow
Same. Happy new Linuxer.
I wonder if that’s why my work PC has been having all kinds of stuttering/lag issues. I’m regularly seeing a second or two between clicking/typing at various points throughout the day.
Project K2, baby!
/s if it wasn’t obvious.
Well, not mine.
Is there a windows 11 update that doesnt break everything?
Weird. Monthly updates used to be pretty harmless with a bunch of little bug fixes that really only affected a few people. Then AI came out, and in the past 6 months or so every patch Tuesday has been a complete disaster. It’s almost as if they laid off a bunch of engineers and now have the remaining ones just vibe coding shit while using the same LLM to do code review and everything is going to hell. Not that it was a phenomenal product to begin with, but when you have engineers vibe coding patches for such a delecate platform, it’s going to end in disaster.
Are you suggesting the patches are fixing issues the AI caused? If so, that isn’t what’s happening. AI is finding vulnerabilities from old human written code at a pace unlike anything before. Not because humans couldn’t technically find them, it’s just that they never did. That isn’t me marketing or shelling out for an AI company, there are many different models accomplishing the same thing, and more to come. It’s not just with Microsoft, though Microsoft has a lot of vulnerabilities to find. AI is causing chaos for just about every major tech company with all the vulnerabilities being found. And they have to find and patch them before someone else uses the AI to find and abuse the vulnerabilities first. The long standing match of cat and mouse is much faster than it once was
This is actually a very valid take, and I didn’t think of it this way. Man, what a complicated landscape AI has made. Pandora’s box certainly has been opened.
is there any anecdotal evidence that IT departments are at least considering, thinking about, having an initial assessment of doing anything but just buying whatever slop microsoft is spewing out?
kinda feels like until the river of gold from enterprise sales slows there is no downside to microsoft burning their platform.
my anecdote is that no, IT is still a MS crack addict.
Nobody gets fired for buying Microsoft.
day to day people who don’t care about computers as a hobby memorize the steps to using their computers along with the icons. The average person couldn’t use Linux in a work environment simply because they lack critical thinking skills required to use a slightly different computing environment. Your everyday middle management refuses to cut productivity for long term change that isn’t overwhelmingly positive to their bottom line.
I’m curious what the people down voting you thought. You’re 100% right. Critical thinking is in surprisingly short supply. If I provide instructions with pictures that have big red circles and an arrow around what they need to click for each step, I still need to make sure the instructions aren’t more than like 7 steps otherwise they get lost.
Fair. Thing is, Microsoft are changing windows anyway, what with all the unwanted features they’re integrating.
It’s because they sell all of their products as a vendor package with advertised SLAs and “discounts”.
If your company needs cloud stuff and you happen to want Azure, you’re basically getting locked into Teams.
Unlike specialty software like Adobe, pretty much everything Microsoft offers has feature parity or superior alternatives, it just relies on the fact that businesses aren’t stuck on any one of their products.
There are actually a handful of companies that only use MacOS or Linux, but it requires both your IT team and management to be competent enough to throw MSFT away, which is much harder to do in a legacy settings when your entire domain infara is a 20+ year old AD domain.
The IT dept at my work uses exclusively Microsoft shit. Like, google products are banned on my work phone, as is pretty much everything else. They said this is for security and to help them remain GDPR compliant. As you might imagine, it’s shit.
google products are banned on my work phone
Including Play Store?
Not entirely. It’s an android so it does have the play store, but only about a dozen apps are allowed to be installed. I can’t even install what 3 words, which my work uses constantly. Also I’d like to install the Google swipe keyboard, cos the Microsoft one is shit.
Basically, the combination of a device that’s locked down hard and it only allowing MS products makes my work slower and harder than it needs to be.
