• Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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    Russia is the perfect country for the MAGA fucknuts. I’m surprised Ben is not serving as canon fodder on the front. 224 idiot Germans moved to Russia, WTF! Stay there and do not return.

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    This article inspired me to check and Teddy Boy Greg (the disgruntled white power barber with a ton of ridiculous facial tattoos who moved to Russia to get away from what he called “degenerates”) has recently died in Ukraine

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    Ilja Belobragin, general managing partner at Move To Russia, a company which helps foreigners relocate to Russia, says something he frequently hears from his clients is that they “don’t recognise the community around me anymore”.

    Some prospective migrants complain about high immigration in their own countries or what they see as declining living standards, he says.

    Let’s break this down: The people say they “don’t recognise the community around [them] anymore” because of “high immigration”, so they decide to become an immigrant surrounded by people of a different nationality than them.

    As I see it, this is for one specific reason only: I don’t believe it’s the different cultural values from immigration that bothers them (they are literally moving into a wholly foreign culture; although I’m sure the Orthodox church gives some perverse appeal), but I believe they are bothered by ethnicity/skin colour. I believe these people are racists more than they are xenophobes.

    I believe, for these people, Russia is a better alternative only because they have a certain perception of white-skinned Russians. I don’t think these people are aware of places like Tuva, or Yakutia, or Chechnya - and I don’t think they would ever visit those places. To say their quiet part out loud, I think these “conservatives” are just people who are white supremacists, moving because it’s a “white country” in their eyes, and thinking all white people have some shared essence. This is how they can justify to themselves being a foreigner in a foreign land. How else could they justify it to themselves?

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        Russia’s been running a massive propaganda campaign in Europe and the US for more than a decade. Including slandering the LGBT and trying to associate them with illegal activities, promoting Christian orthodoxy over atheism, depicting Europe as degenerate and failing, demonizing immigrants and trying to frame them as criminals etc.

        The people who move to Russia thinking they are upgrading their lives are few according to this article, but I’m still surprised by how these people completely ignored how authoritarian and destitute that country is. Germans moving to Russia thinking it’s the better place to be is a huge propaganda victory for the latter.

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    1. Not really very different to the promises of great new lives made to people joining ISIS
    2. Oh the irony of becoming a migrant elsewhere whilst complaining about migrants at home.
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      Nonono, he is not an immigrant, he is an expat. HUGE difference! Just ask the British pensioners in Spain and southern France!

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        Ah yes, I know a few of those including a family we grew up with. After moving to Cyprus they became quite the voice about how terribly it was going in the UK. Piss heads

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    I wonder if he’ll be drafted

    Within weeks of arriving, Leo says they were defrauded of 5 million roubles – about £52,000 ($66,000) – by a contact they trusted, leaving them homeless.

    Although he is committed to staying in Russia out of a sense of “destiny”, he now says he misses the freedoms that have shaped the American personality.

    “[In] Russia you don’t have these human rights values.”

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    Some prospective migrants complain about high immigration in their own countries or what they see as declining living standards, he says.

    Worried about immigration and poor living standards? Become an immigrant in Russia! Conservatives aren’t great at thinking things through.

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    I guess credit to them for following through but now they’re in the Find Out phase.

    Conservatives, tankies should really be careful for what they wish for.

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      Conservatives, tankies should really be careful for what they wish for.

      It’s kinda like when you see a dog barking behind a window, and it immediately calms down when you open it.

      Russia is the greatest country in the entire world… Until they have to live there.

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    If we get rid of those idiots that way, why should we complain? I mean, there are enough sources of information to see how a county is. If you only rely on state-issued propaganda and you fall for it, don’t expect any sympathy.

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    People are so fucking dumb man. Like just take the sentence and make it into questions: traditional? values?

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    i remember reading somewhere that russia is conservative because it lacks access to the sea. it’s the sea access that made england the birth land of liberalism because the sea connects more than it divides. so you get in contact with lots of other cultures. and that breeds liberalism.

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          The arctic does not free Russia from being a continental, rather than maritime, power. Their geopolitics and imperial identity is dominated by mountain and river and plains borders, and destabilizing or annexing the powers at their borders. The arctic is inaccessible except for some baltic access dominated by maritime nations.

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          It is way less dumb than you think it is. As long as climate change is not doing something about it, Russia’s access to international waters is a lot more compromised than many think. Russia’s main ports have access to the Baltic Sea and the Black Sea. In both cases other countries can block access of Russian ships to the Atlantic. Other than that, the only ports with all year round usable access to international waters is in Russia’s far east (Vladivostok primarily), which can compensate a bit but not nearly replace the ports in the European parts of Russia.

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          But in relation to this statement, it is not wrong. The large coastline in the north does not really provide contacts except for polar bears, the east is a completely different society, which leaves only the Baltic coast and a few, summer-only harbors in the north and the black sea.

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      It’s well known that cultures that are more urban, closer to the sea and thus meet more diverse people, are more open.

      Also, note that Saint Petersburg is the most liberal city of Russia.

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      My man Russia has had access to plenty of sea. Sankt Petersburg is on the Baltic Sea and has been there for like 300 years. The Russian Empire had access to the Black Sea and the Pacific and so did the Soviet Union. It’s not the access to the sea that’s making them conservative, it’s the Russian Orthodox Church and their governments keeping them uneducated so they can control them easily. The Russian Orthodox Church is so conservative they refuse to change to the Gregorian calendar, they still use the Julian Calendar which is innacurate and keeps drifting so that they celebrate most Christian Holidays like 2 weeks later than everyone else.

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        And access to the Baltic Sea and to the Black Sea is worth, jack sht, if access to the Atlantic from there can be blocked by multiple countries. It is actually worse than access of Austria to the Seas. In the case of Austria goods can be delivered within the Single Market to an Atlantic port. The only access to the Oceans is at the Pacific but the Transsiberian Railway doesn’t have nearly the capacity to make that Russia’s main port and there is not that much of anything in the far east to need a huge port. It is good as a military harbour but terrible for projecting maritime power to Europe where Russia is engaged in imperialist wars of conquest.

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      Wait until you find out what the liberals did to all of those other cultures