He added that physical and psychological damages “inflicted on each individual of the Iranian nation in the 2nd and 3rd imposed wars, from child killings and war crimes in Minab and Lamerd to attacks on medical centres, is each a legal file that must be pursued in both domestic and international courts.”
He further stated that from the “murder” of newborns and the elderly to the assassination of his father and predecessor, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, “each is a file among thousands of major legal cases that must be earnestly pursued in domestic and international courts”.
“What is definite is that these criminals must be seized by the collar and brought to justice for their criminal deeds,” he asserted.
Never in my life could I have expected to agree with the Iranian government. But, on this specific issue? I do. There needs to be accountability for this.
Before blaming the current Iranian government of killing its own people, one should remember it was the US made it possible for them to come to power. By fomenting unrest against a democratically elected government which was as western as possible.
We shouldn’tve meddled, but I can still blame theocratic authoritarians for being theocratic authoritarians who abuse and murder protesters
Protestors or mossad supported terrorists trying to overthrow the government?
They fomented unrest against a democratically elected government in the past, but surely not this time?!
They just straight up admitted it.
“We are with you. Not only from a distance and verbally. We are with you in the field.”
It happend 50 years ago. Nobody from the current administration is responsible.
If only faults of past administrations, stay with them and not turn into the problems of today. The current administration are perpetuating and increasing their missteps.
What should the current administration (not the current current, but any modern) do with that.
Stop supporting the apartheid government of Israel.
It is a fault of past and current administration of supporting Israel blindly.
Fair. But let’s not forget all of their own people they killed. Trump, Netanyahu and Khamenei should all share a cell in The Hague.
let’s not forget all of their own people they killed
It was crazy to hear US news reporting “Iran has killed 30k, 50k, 90k of their own people!!” based on unnamed sources and Facebook memes. Meanwhile, the journalists on the ground in Gaza reporting on the genocide were systematically assassinated by the Israeli government, while hospitals were obliterated, and communications severed. And the US national media response became “information is unreliable so we’re just not going to say a number anymore”.
I wonder how many Iranians killed during the current US/Israel air raids and infrastructure annihilation will be retroactively counted as “The Iranians killed themselves”, once American journalists finally make their way back into the country.
The Americans think that their propaganda still works. fuck that disgusting rogue empire.
It’s definitely losing it’s grip. But genuinely frightening to see how many people will still fall back on “Yeah, but I’m glad they’re killing the correct kind of foreigners this time”. As soon as Democrats retake the White House, your head is going to spin to see how many people enthusiastically support more bombings.
Death to America!
You don’t need to wonder how many Iranians died during the war, because Iran keeps very good track of these. However, they try their best to hide how many were killed of their own citizens during January, and there there will probably never be an accurate figure for that, only estimates.
Iran keeps very good track of these. However, they try their best to hide how many were killed
Where did you get this information?
Like in the Lahaina Fire on Maui, right. They counted the people they can identify in the death toll. But the homeless are left out of the official count of the dead. That town was full of homeless camps in the bushes. The real number of dead could be 10x the official number.
We don’t want them in Europe, build a cell somewhere else!
I rather have them here to be honest, or somewhere with equally little corruption and equally little political instability. They sure can raise my taxes if that keeps these 3 jailed.
I want everyone in jail, I want it everywhere, I want it now.
The vote ratio on your comment is alarming and tells a lot about the Lemmy user base.
I’ll never understand how people can call themselves leftists and then simp for the likes of Khamenei.
I bet there’s tons of stuff you struggle to understand on a daily basis.
Indeed there are. Maybe that’s because I don’t see the world through the lens of an ideology, that’s entirely detached from reality.
Do you understand the idea of critical support? Do you understand that America is the global hegemon and their actions in Iran are war crimes? Leftists don’t support Iran because of their structure of government, its because America is the bad guy, and has been since the end of WWII.
Do you also “critically support” Jeffrey Dahmer because he murdered Americans?
Do you equate Jeffrey Dahmer, a single man with mental illness, to a nation state defending itself from the largest military to ever exist, which is run by genocidal pedophiles?
Are you 12?
Oh yeah, there’s not a lot of valuable discussion to be had here. It’s mostly state actors and college kids that just read about the subject for the first time and think they’re experts. And fuckin half the comments at least are clearly written by an LLM. If reddit didn’t ban you for calling nazis nazis I’d still be there. Redditors on average seem much more educated than lemmings in my experience, you always see the most dogshit takes upvoted here.
I am not too sure about this. I doubt half of the comments is written by LLMs. I just think Lemmy is much more left-leaning than reddit was. Israel was always polarizing in the left, since Oct 7 this has become much worse. I really miss a critical view on the conflicts here. I feel people need to divide every topic into 2 contrary views, it is always black or white. The enemy of my enemy is my friend - so they rather sympathize with Iran than with Israel or the west™ in general. I don’t think this has to do with education, and I highly doubt the average education of redditors is very high. Reddit is mainstream nowadays, the user base is basically old Facebook minus the boomers.
Honestly, I would prefer Lemmy every day over reddit, because I believe in a free user controlled space without big corp. However I instance blocked lemmy.ml and always think twice before engaging in a political discussion. But sometimes, like in this case, people are so blind and stupid that I can’t shut my mouth.
Unrelated to topic, but i only see total up/downvotes. How do i get ratio? Switch viewer or change setting?
I guess it depends on the viewer/app you are using to access the Threadiverse. I use the Voyager mobile app on Android, but the setting should be available on iOS and the web viewer too.
Appearance > Other > Display Votes > Separate
Thanks, i’m using Voyager on Android too and thoroughly checked general settings but appearantly didn’t even think to look at appearance settings, oops.
I agree the settings categories are a bit confusing
Fuck all the goverments who oppress their citizens or the whole world so that a few can cling to power. In US it is the billionaires in Russia or Iran it is the supreme leaders in Israel it is the members of a society. US/Israel/Russia can afford to be a world-wide menace because they have the power to back that up. Believe me the religious supreme leaders of Iran would be doing similar shit had they the same power and leverage as US. They would be quite happy to use religion as an excuse to wage a holy war. They all deserve to rot in the same cesspit and they are not your friends.
The difference is that one of those countries is actually supporting a genocide and actively bombing civilians. We don’t need to hear about your what ifs, because America is actively murdering innocent civilians in Iran, and supplying the weapons for a genocide in Gaza and now Lebanon.
He is still right, here. There has to be consequences for Israel and USA, whichever form that may take. Iran didn’t start any of these fucking wars. Their leadership is evil, period, doesn’t mean that they are wrong in point.
100% right, ceasefire without consequences for the opressor is just a delay until the next oppression. Though this doesn’t absolve Iran of its own oppressions that goes without consequences, albeit being of the local scale.
This kind of attitude serves the interests of the status-quo. If the victims of empire are “just as bad” then you don’t really have to care. Also, “they would be doing similar shit had they the same power” is just projection. I imagine German citizens in 1941 saying the same kind of thing.
You are wrong, the state is not the real victim. It is citizens who are the real victims of both internal and external oppression. What a fucked situation to be in. I have friends from this country who had complicated feelings against the unjustified US/Israel invasion and that pretty much sums up how shitty it must be there internally to make someone feel like that.
I’m not talking about the state as victim. I sympathize with your friends, but they are absolutely naive (even if I understand the need for hope), to think that any of this will result in an improvement to their lives. Ending sanctions would result in immediate improvement, and a much higher likelihood of long-term loosening of strict state social controls. Instead they get bombs dropped on them, and a government that consolidates its existing domestic (and foreign) support, and is increasingly and for good reason concerned with internal threats.
True.
I hate everyone in this.
A clock with dead batteries is still right twice a day.
Agreed. Someone(s) should be made to answer for all that murder. Laws and common decency need to matter again.
Wouldn’t it be funny if Iran joined the ICC? They won’t otherwise they’d pretty quickly have to answer for all the executions they are perpetrating, but still, it would be funny.
Afaik neither Iran, not Israel, nor the US recognize the ICC nor the ICJ. Their leaders should stop bitching about who committed what war crime and just go to jail already.
It’s true, but Iran leadership has been commiting crimes against humanity themselves as well.
It’s crazy though that I instantly agreed with the sentiment when I read it…
Sure, but that won’t ever happen. The future sucks, there is no hope.
Fuck em. We can make their future suck even worse.
We will happily give you the convicted felon that happens to be our president and his entire cabinet to you. Please save us.
That would make an awesome campaign promise.
Guys calm down. It’s cute when we do it. It’s only a problem when you do it because of branding.
You want fuck with us? Prop up an extremist Christian sect in your country and publicize the atrocities they commit. Then compare them to the US.
Bwhahaha
The regime that slaughters and oppresses its own people so heavily is going to have a tough time here, even though the US is guilty of what they accuse.
Just because the other guy does it at home doesn’t mean its okay to do it to his people too. Its not an invitation.
