• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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      16 days ago

      its nvidia and AI creating a bubble on the belief they’ll be able to get profit and get out before it pops.

      But all it is… is imaginary money going around in circles. nvidia invests a trillion in AI, AI buys a trillion dollars of nvidia videocards from some nebulous point in the future where they arent made yet, nvidia invests that trillion back into AI, AI uses it to buy ridiculous amounts of ram that wont be made for years, RAM invests it back into AI, and on and on they go, generating imaginary money and value, by buying imaginary things.

      under a sane government this would be investigated as raw stock manipulation and fraud

      I really hope when this bubble pops nvidia is destroyed in the process along with the AI companies.

    • HexesofVexes@lemmy.world
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      16 days ago

      Your bank account certainly will be.

      That said, if you buy refurb you can put together a decent rig on a budget.

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      16 days ago

      Recently built a computer for my kiddo. Beg, borrow, and steal. And keep an eye out for motherboard and memory combos from new egg.

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      16 days ago

      SODIMM ram is still cheap. You could build them a ddr4 intel system with integrated graphics (ideally Arc cores or plenty of EUs) that will run some older or simpler games at 40-60fps with a little upscaling, and the whole thing could be done for 500-700 I reckon.

      Either that or maybe build an AM4 if you find a used GPU at a good price.

    • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
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      16 days ago

      They aren’t?

      They are buying up capacity from manufacturers who are stopping production of DRAM and pivot to HBM which is more profitable. Abandoning DRAM which affects a lot more than just “consumer grade RAM”

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        They’re publicly traded companies. Their investor meetings point out that HBM is not more profitable.

        It is in theory more guaranteed profit because it’s a smaller number of bigger contracts. But that’s the gamble they’re making.

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          But isn’t it kind of a game of chicken then for the consumer markets? Whoever gambles the other way, can win in both volume and availability, being able to cut the others off market just by pricing, enabled by the prior two points, get brand points by the ladle while at it, and kind of become a staple of the consumer market. When the bubble pops and others return, the market isn’t the same and everyone else sits at a disadvantage?

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            16 days ago

            Yes.

            Which is why it’s bad that the only 3 companies with capacity currently are colluding.

    • mack@lemmy.sdf.org
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      15 days ago

      it’s been like that for the past 6 years or so? I remember falling back to a laptop because of video card spike because mining, then I said right I postpone another year for the build and the chip shortage came along. Then SSD/hard drive Then RAM Next thing they’re pulling the rug off is going to be PSU and chassis and we’re cooked

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    15 days ago

    No problem. So much enshittification on the web these days, don’t need so much RAM, I might sell some.

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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      16 days ago

      GPU prices have gone up and up since RTX 2000 era, basically.

      My 3090 is about as expensive than it was at launch, 6 years ago.

      There were crypto slumps, many moons ago, but I don’t think that’s happening again.

      • kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
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        15 days ago

        Anecdotally, according to the internet my ~14 year old graphics card is worth more than 2x what I paid for it. So…

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    Replace some of the labor you would use to pay for RAM and put it into learning a lighter weight operating system.

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      16 days ago

      Ironically, browsers are so fucking bloated these days that any thin client that can run one can also enjoy most of gaming history.

    • kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world
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      Even in this hardware hellscape you can get some pretty decent handhelds for $200. I think the low end segment can stay pretty strong with devices like those and indie games.

      But yeah I think high end gaming is going to be pretty stagnant for at least the next few years.

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    16 days ago

    Oh no, how will I get my flashing lights and data hoarding fix now!!??