• HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca
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      15 days ago

      Nothing would make me happier than to see US diesel purchased from Russia go to the bottom of the ocean.

      And I’m a fucking environmentalist.

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        Right? My preference would be that Ukraine steals it for their use… but blowded up is second best

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        I mean, if it manages to remain in barrels then it’s possibly better for the environment than being burned lol

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    15 days ago

    So call me confused… But isn’t Russia short of diesel itself? And isn’t this breaking a bunch of agreements between western countries?

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      They are having diesel shortages and super high prices since the refineries keep getting blown up while simultaneously a lot of the middle east ones are out of commission. So not necessarily a ton for America to vacuum up and feel substantial relief but it does give fat stacks of cash to boost refinery repair efforts by pumping up demand and prices for Russian diesel

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      Russia is a very big country with very limited transport infrastructure. There are diesel shortages in Russia, mostly in areas where Ukrainian missiles can reach, but for example the Northern and Siberian districts would be mostly unaffected.

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      Yes. They have banned exports. While sanctions lift is dressed up as diesel for us, its actually all energy sanctions relief to all.

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      Ukraine already tried that and got their entire coastline blockaded. (Also Russia would probably use the Pacific route for transport to the US.)

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    A complete and total throwing of Ukraine under the bus. I cannot believe the Russian interference in US politics is so nakedly obvious and still nothing being done.

    Maybe it’s moot as the chaos really starts in just a few weeks. But wow.

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    It’s so fucking sad, pathetic, and treasonous.

    Suddenly USA is aiding and abetting Russian imperial wars? And favor them over allies?

    This will end in disaster.

    Imagine, the courage and bravery of the Ukrainian people to defend their nation against unprovoked aggression with such consummate sense of duty and with such heart, only to be stabbed in the back by the very country who waged endless proxy wars against “communism” and the Red Threat for the better part of a century.

    This is a disgrace to humanity, a stain on our civilization and an affront to all those who fought and died to ensure the continued existence of civil democratic society.

    Abysmal.

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      Even from a rightwing standpoint pre 2010, this confirms Russia managed to turn the government and make them their bitch. Which means despite losing in Ukraine like the pathetic genocidal maniacs they are, Putistan won the cold war.

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    It’s funding it. No money for Ukraine but they’ll fund Russia, who apparently needs America’s help to defeat Ukraine, not just needs to stay out of it. Ukraine might defeat two of the worlds superpowers at the same time. Slava Ukraine.

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      I am convinced the only purpose of this is so Trump can blame Ukraine when diesel prices are still high a month from now.

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    This is deplorable, self-inflicted issue and then let sick putin off the hook. This is bad fruit produced from bad people and policies. Healthy policies and ways to be excellent to each other, produces good people, but so many keep insisting on the bad ways/trees which produces the bad fruit.

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    This starts in November, and not a midterm saver. Unless US is able to significantly restrain Ukrainian attacks on refineries, oil instead of diesel is what will get exported more. The reason for US to do this is that they know oil prices will collapse the global economy based on their November military plans for Iran.

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      Russia doesn’t have much diesel to export. Putin instituted a ban for a reason

      This will help the midterms in that it’s an “accomplishment” Trump can point to that will totally fix his fuckups right after the election

      Just like he’s been claiming the Iran war will end right after the midterms

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        I don’t think it can substantially reduce diesel prices prior to midterm unless it encourages US refineries to go even harder as if $6+ diesel retail wasn’t already enough for them to go full out. You’re right that diesel export capacity for Russia will take a while to rebuild.

        Just like he’s been claiming the Iran war will end right after the midterms

        There’s 2 general possibilities for “ending” Iran war after rather than, with bonus points for elections, prior to midterms.

        1. Respectful sincere peace with Iran, all the while declaring victory as US forces leave. This raises questions about just how victorious the US is. The reason this path can’t be chosen before midterms is “Iran failure/impotence” is neither a good look, nor a reason to vote for the diaper licker candidates.

        2. War escalation under theory that this will force Iran to beg to surrender. “end of war” prediction comes from more probable war until 2028 election…

        I doubt US establishment is capable of peace with Iran, and so option 2 is only desired path. Still there are 2 huge obstacles.

        1. Democrats sweep both houses in midterms. War powers, and war budget not passed. Impeachment in the air.

        2. even if GOP rigs a win, a $700B military budget increase will have bond markets revolt harder. Global economic collapse is already teethering. There is no war path, or pretense of super power status, that ends well for US/global economy.

        Pressures to end the war (just leave with big victory speech) are inescapable. Fucking it up hasn’t stopped US before.

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    It’s Trump’s style

    To win, you need someone to lose

    if his allies lose, he’s winning