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I find it hilarious that all these countries call themselves “democracies” yet criminals have a loophole where they can just stay in power indefinitely as long as they continue committing more crimes.
Clown world.
Will he go to prison? Seems like the majority of Israelis approve of what he’s doing.
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Trump is a convicted felon, yet there was/is no political will to imprison him. The ruling class doesn’t give a shit if one of their members commits crimes or war crimes or even genocide. As long as they their ability to hoard extreme wealth is unaffected, they don’t care.
Its crazy how much stronger Israel’s position would be if they got rid of this old, incompetent babbling idiot. Like no one ever would look at this and say “yeah Iran should have nukes” but somehow here we are. Israel’s incapability to effectively govern itself just shows that most of their problems are of their own making.
Netanyahu has been on and off power in Israel over the past three decades.
Looking at Smotrich, Ben Gvir and the like, the even more fascist right is not going to be any better. Meanwhile what considers itself the “left” in Israel is still very much genocidal and imperialist.
Just like Trump, Netanyahu isn’t the root cause, just an aggravating symptom of the issues in the society.
Yeah this “blame Netanyahu” line is a liberal Zionist rearguard to salvage the colony’s tattered reputation. This isn’t one bad apple.
Most of Israel’s senior politicians are just as bad.
And Iran should definitely have nukes; it’s the only way to protect it from the endless aggression of the the US and Israel (both of which have nukes)
The knesset was about to be toppled the night before. He literally did this to stave off government collapse.
I’m glad I’m not the only one to notice this, all these atrocities are just so Bibi can stay in power and out of jail for corruption.
Yes but also western powers aren’t sanctioning or trying to stop him.
That is not a conclusion that can be reached from: Israel government almost devolves but is saved by a vote to bomb a foreign nation explicitly to piss off Trump and detail his negotiations with Iran?
Israeli society is sick and genocidal, “Bibi” (why are you using the fascist’s favorite pet name btw? Leave they for the fascists) is not the sole problem.
These Zionist psychopaths commit genocide and bomb countries without any consequences. Fuck Israel.
There can be no prosperity for humanity with such colonies around the world. Disarm Israel now.
& turn it into an actual safe haven for Jews. Because the far right christians will most definetly use Israel’s attrocities to justify anti-semitism (the real one)
Well, that’s some “art of the deal” for sure. Peace in Middle East negotiated, bravo Vitkoff and Taco Don.
not making the best case for “right to exist”
What case can you make for a religious supremacist ethnostate where they shoot children in the knees for sport?
Are you talking about Iran or Israel?
Israel
You should look up what your dear leaders are doing to their people in Iran, friendo.
what about x?
You’re right, Iran is a religious ethno state and you’re smart enough to recognize that as a bad thing, but when it comes to literal Jewish ISIS (Israel), you have to make an exception.
Don’t bring up other countries I didn’t defend, I’m simply asking you to make a case for Israel to be built as a Jewish supremacist state on land already lived on by a majority non Jewish native population, forcing the ethnostate to genocide them just to exist.
Make a case for Israel that isn’t “Europeans felt guilty for the Holocaust so they declared Jews are allowed to Holocaust anyone and gave them Palestine”
Why would I? I don’t support the Israeli government at all and it’s no question they’re guilty of a genocide.
Stop engaging in stupid whataboutism then. Getting a few Internet points isn’t worth diverting the conversation from the genocidal entity. You’re the one that brought up Iran, friendo.
Yeah & as always US is involved in it. Mind you I didn’t deny what Iran was doing, but just like Oct.7th, Iran’s current state didn’t happen in a vaccuum
Obviously Israel
They’re at the “right to do whatever the fuck we want” stage.
Iran has recently been reported as failing to meet its nuclear non-proliferation obligations and this is undoubtedly the reason Israel describes these strikes as pre-emptive.
I wonder why they would want nuclear weapons. It might be because people keep bombing them.
They started the program on the first government change after Bush announced the US would invade them…
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Yeah israel sure doesn’t use religion as their justification for the atrocities happening in gaza, west bank, lebanon, syria. /s
People are not able to chose between black and white anymore. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” is what they chose. If Israel is bad, Iran must be good. Poor, poor Iran, just wanted to play a bit with nuclear bombs. The decade long calls of destruction of the Israeli state was just them saying “we want to be left alone”! The only thing that confuses them is Iran being one of the main providers of the Russian war. But soon they will side with Russia to be against “the imperialist west”. One side or the other, they don’t know any middle ground.
Now let the downvotes come my authoritarian tankies
Iran used to be best friends with Israel. When the Shah a dictator ruled Iran, that was installed after the US couped the democratically elected president. Subsequently that dictator received training for his armed forces and intelligence as well as weapons from Israel. Israel helped the Shah torture, murder and dissappear tens of thousands of people.
Of course after the revolution Iran became hostile to the country that built up the Gestapo in their country. Then the US encouraged Saddam Hussein to invade Iran, killing a million Iranians in the following 8 years.
Iran is right to feel threatened by the US and Israel, since these two threaten Iran since four decades. Still Iran was willing to negotiate and the JCPOA was achieved under Obamas presidency, but subsequently destroyed by Trump to the cheers of Israel. Israel wants Iran to be annihilated since many years, but it wants the US to do the bidding. Still Iran was in negotiations with the US again, that Israel worked hard to sabotage.
It is perfectly rational for Iran to want to develop a nuclear weapon now, as any attempt at diplomacy was met with attacks by Israel.
fwiw, I agree with what you wrote here. My intention was not to imply “Iran good, Israel bad,” though judging by the upvotes it seems like I’ve tapped into that part of lemmy. My reductive quip still describes their motivation though.
Who said anything about iran being good as you put it, have you even read through this thread
If Israel is bad, Iran must be good
Yeah this is driving me nuts too. In particular how people start viewing Hamas as some sort of freedom fighters just because evil Israel is kicking their ass. It’s just shit people all around yet nothing can change cause it’s a team game not a truth or justice one.
facts
Maybe taco shouldn’t have backed out of that deal last time he was president.
Israel’s actions in the past couple years have all seemed like sorta a desperate attempt to leverage the US Hegemony that’s protected them, before the US buckles.
Sorta like imagine a kid in Grade 1 who’s a total racist bully to his classmates. But the kid has an older brother in grade 6 who has no issue beating the shit outta any Grade 1 kid who fights back. When the older brother nears the transition to middle school – at which point the younger will lose his protection – the younger brother starts instigating like crazy, to try and establish dominance while still protected.
hopefully it’s a swan song
I mean, there’s also the whole “Netanyahu goes to prison if he doesn’t have a war going on” thing.
Honestly, I’m kinda surprised he waited this long.
Bibi will do anything to keep Israel in a state of emergency. Good for his extreme right buddies but foremost better for himself. As long there is some war going on, their cabinet stays in power and him out of jail for his fraud conviction. Him and his Zionist extremists are cancer for Israel and the region.
I feel like the narrative that Bibi is just doing this to stay out of jail ignores that the majority of Israeli’s approve of what he’s doing and would not seek a jail term for him, let alone the fact that the rest of the Israeli government would not prosecute. I’d be glad to be wrong, but it feels like blaming one bad apple just lets Zionism as a whole off the hook.
For the sake of peace and the wellbeing of all the people living in that part of the world, I desperately hope that Iran is much closer to developing a nuclear weapon than the world knows. Israel is an unspeakably evil, and relentlessly provocative entity that is as deserving of dismantling as any of the notorious fascist monsters we typically call out in history. A nuclear capability will at least provide some kind of meaningful check against the violent tendencies of the US and its vicious client state.
I wouldn’t want this Iranian government to have nukes though
Genuinely why? They’re one of the least aggressive governments in the region, and not for lack of military resources.
That’s a joke, right?
Oh I’m in .world, zios are here. I forgor
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Totally agree. The Zionists have proven themselves not worthy of humanity, but immoral imperialist savages. I hope Iran gets its nukes and gives the world a great service by using them.
I hope Iran gets its nukes and gives the world a great service by using them.
despite how much I despise Israel, this would be suicidal and would drag the whole world into war
Just the one?
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I hate that there are no good guys in this conflict.
That being said, I also hate to agree with Israel atm because Iran having nuclear weapons is a world ending scenario. Let me remind people that it’s one of the few theocratic countries that still exist which is dominated by religion that has “death to all but us” enshrined as the “word of god”.
Neither Sunni Muslims nor Shia Muslims want that. This is genocidal hate speech against Muslims.
some of them want that, no? or are we doing fingers in ears bla bla bla now?
Iran having nuclear weapons is a world ending scenario
Less so than Israel having nuclear weapons but here we are.
While I have no sympathy for religious dictatorship of Iran, it is Israel who are invading and bombing their neighbours as well as commiting genocide of Palestinians.
What are some examples of wars where ‘good guys and bad guys’ fought
Literally happening right now - Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. There hasn’t been a more black/white war in recent history than this.
Yes but do you think ordinary russians want to be in that war dying, I dont think they are psychopathics who just wanna kill and rape
What does that have to do with anything? The war is black/white. Period.
I wonder what made them so radical, it couldn’t be that nato has been waging war in middle east for thirty or so years
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Huh ‘revealing my true self’ what tf are you on about. (wow hoping for ‘every possible misfortune to fall on me’ you’re a psychopath you should be in psychiatric hospital)
