• torrentialgrain@lemm.ee
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      15 days ago

      This website is collectively completely deluded. Every thread on this topic I see people (I’m assuming tankies and/or actual Hamas supporters) fantasizing about Iran destroying Israel with is… just laughable from an objective PoV.

      I despise the Israeli government but regardless of my feelings towards them, their military is so much more advanced than Iran’s, it’s not even comparable. And they have the backstop of a US carrier group, in case something does go wrong.

      Unfortunately it’s all feelings and no facts on this website. Makes it really hard to actually engage with people.

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        15 days ago

        I don’t believe anyone is saying Iran is capable of doing it, just that it’d be a good day when it finally does happen.

        Israel has all the best toys from their sugar-daddy America. Of course a handful of out-dated Iranian drones won’t do shit.

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          14 days ago

          In the last 24 hours I had the pleasure of interacting with multiple users who are 100% sure Iran is stronger than Israel.

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        All empires eventually collapse, and an empire is like a large cake, most easily diminished at the edges. Israel will fall sooner or later, like the Crusader states and like French colonization in Algeria. It took 198 years for the Crusader states to fall, 132 years for Algeria to be liberated from brutal French colonialism. We may all be long dead when it happens but it will happen.

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        15 days ago

        Look man, people just want to experience a little optimism and fantasize about good things happening in the world. We don’t care if it is realistic or not. It keeps hope alive.

        Better than being a hopeless doomer about everything.

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          14 days ago

          Better than being a hopeless doomer about everything.

          How can any change happen if there is only a limited willingness to perveive reality and analyze it?

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            By allowing people to relieve some stress and engage in a little revolutionary optimism every now and then, even if it is far fetched and not realistic, so that people can retain their mental health and remember what it feels like to actually have hope about something in this shithole of a world we find ourselves.

            You can’t change anything if you don’t have hope for a brighter future. This builds hope, even if it has to reach for it.

            Not everything at every waking moment needs to be analyzed in depth. At this current moment, none of us could affect the outcome of this situation anyway, so let people fantasize.

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                14 days ago

                Never said it would, but neither will you being a wet blanket to people who are just trying to make the best of a shit situation that they cannot affect in any materially significant way at this current moment.

                And FYI, that “magical thinking”, does help bring change. A movement without hope is a movement that is doomed to fail. Look up “revolutionary optimism” and its importance for keeping up morale.

                The easiest way to break an army is to break their spirits. If yours is already broken, then you are no help to anyone.

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          14 days ago

          a little optimism and fantasize about good things happening in the world.

          Well if the dictatorship is overthrown in Iran, that would be fantastically great. If Israel also gets rid of its terrible PM, that would be good too. Maybe both the people of Iran and Israel can both come out winners.

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        You fail to realize all of the countries Israel has been attacking working together, like how Germany fell. It’s just a matter of time.

        Anyways. You’re free to leave.

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          Oh sure, Iran is super popular in the region. I’m sure all their allies will be riding to their defense any day now.

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            Oh don’t get me wrong. Fuck Iran. But fuck Israel too. They have been attacking everybody around them.

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        Rant in agreement, not directed at you: I got banned from /c/progressivepolitics for sharing a dozen reputable links with the most obvious history of Iran in the last 50 years. Fuck Iran. Fuck their government. Fuck bigotry. Fuck classsism. And fuck you antisemites looking for any enemy of the Jews to cheer on. You’re transparent, full of shit and argue in bad faith. Best case this place is flooded with Russian bots. You know, the ones pushing the Ukraine with the Jewish leader are the Nazis, Russians? And now the Jews, who Russians fucking adore, are the Nazis everywhere. Jfc. Clearly Israel’s regime and Likud are fucking deplorable. Don’t pretend you care about Palestinians more than an excuse to pipe up about the Jews. I fucking hate this site. I think I’m done. Siding with fucking Iran?!?! On anything?! The West should fucking level their nuclear infrastructure and pull a Nicaragua on their government if Israel doesn’t succeed first. Fuck that shithole terrorist funding country. Bc we care about rehoming all the exiled Persians, right? Bc the migrants? Right? Bc we care about them no matter where they’re from, right? So women can wear bikinis and get doctorates, right? So people can be gay and practice the religion they want, right? Disingenuous bullshit motherfuckers on here. Rot in hell you Nazi tanky bootlicking fucks and fuck you fake leftist preachy privileged little shits. Iran is not good. They have lots of enemies that are as shitty as them, but only the Jews getting you cheering for Iran. Read a fucking history book or a fucking news article from literally less than a year ago, and see who you’re cheering, you ignorant cunts.

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        14 days ago

        Its crazy right? I’m so tired of reddit alternatives being taken over by lunatics. So tired man.

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        it’s an excuse for extremists to indulge conspiracy fantasies and hate jews openly