Watching the divide in republican circles on Iran has been a great way to see who is under Kremlin control. Most are who we already knew: Tulsi Gabbard, Tucker Carlson, Rand Paul, etc.
Yeah the entire US intelligence arm, really any public intelligence period, etc.
I vehemently disagree with those folks you mentioned but gotta say, not wanting to get involved in another war in the Middle East built on outright lies doesn’t make them Kremlin controlled. It’s other things.
I’m just saying that it’s amusing the only anti-war Republicans in the administration and Congress are ones who’ve long looked, acted, and quacked like Kremlin assets:
- You’ve got Tulsi Gabbard literally echoing Kremlin propaganda verbatim on Western imperialism (yet not making a peep about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine)
- You’ve got Tucker Carlson flying to Moscow, simping for Putin, trying to show how great Russia is in contrast to the USA.
- You’ve got Rand Paul flying to Moscow hand-delivering letters on behalf of Trump.
There may be an intersection of my desire to not want to escalate for completely different reasons, and Kremlin operatives not wanting their ally and arms supplier to be crippled, but that is all.
Yeah, but have you seen Russian grocery stores? They have food!
Im not currently impressed but may change my tune within the year
All of those things you mentioned? Exactly what I was referencing earlier.
Definitely a fair point with one of Russia’s key military suppliers potentially being crippled, I agree. There have been other republican detractors in congress who don’t fall into the same boat and, again, I’m not sure I can really fault Gabbard (in this very specific context mind you) for just reiterating what the US’ own intelligence is saying.
Yeah real red blooded Americans want world war III
Real Americans yell TACO at trump until he bombs Iran.
Anti-war people being consistent in their anti-war stance somehow means they’re Putin’s puppets.
Oh, so Tulsi Gabbard definitely 100% publicly denounced Russia’s unprecedented act of aggression and imperial invasion of Ukraine, right…?
… Right… ?
Do not conflate being against the war with Iran as being a Putin puppet.
To the contrary, I am conflating the fact that the alleged “anti-war” person (your words) suddenly wasn’t “anti-war” when Russia invaded Ukraine as being a Putin puppet; that, and the fact that US intelligence reports found that Russia was promoting Tulsi as the Democratic primaries candidate in 2020, among other things.
Bystanders take note how this individual is trying really hard to separate Tulsi Gabbard from the Kremlin. Like, really hard. Deflections and all.
I don’t give a fuck about those people. What I give a fuck about is this:
Watching the divide in republican circles on Iran has been a great way to see who is under Kremlin control.
Is conflating being against the war with Iran with being Putin’s puppet and is drumming support for the war. Stop supporting Trump’s war.
Never once did I say that solely being against war with Iran meant someone was Putin’s puppet. Never. Either work on your reading comprehension or get your eyes checked.
What I did say is that those specific Republican members who are known Kremlin parrots conveniently oppose the war for ulterior motives. This much is clear.
known Kremlin parrots conveniently oppose the war for ulterior motives
What “ulterior motives” if not for being Putin’s puppets? It can’t be because they aren’t Israel’s puppets like Cruz or Trump. It can’t be because war with Iran is fucking stupid.
Sounds like something one of Putin’s puppets would say.
“Very negatively” as opposed to what? Mild negativity?
Saber rattling, very menacingly.
That’s Russia and China in a nutshell. Trump does it too, but that’s just because he’s mimicking daddy Putin.
A stern talking down to?
translation from Russian: they will keep bombing schools and hospitals in Ukraine, but now it’s going to be a “reaction” just because they were provoked
You have to think at this point the White House is just like two armed camps. The people that work for Putin and the people who work for Netanyahu. Few years ago I’d say they were sharing an uneasy truce, maybe even a burgeoning friendship, but now? God I hope they tear themselves apart.
Don’t forget the 3rd camp of military industrial complexists, just in it to make money bombing whoever wherever
Pretty sure that’s the Netanyahu camp.
Russia’s basically already on two fronts and just lost a huge proportion of its strategic bombers.
Iran is their ally yet they’ve allowed Israel to strike Iran with out repercussions so they’re sending a lot of mixed messages
I hate war.
But if daddy Vladdy is mad…
I still hate war.
Personally I would be very pleased if both Putin and Khamenei were beaten to death by crooked sticks by an angry mob of pissed of civilians. That being said, I’m still not a fan of war.
trump really forgot the only reason he has a razor thin congressional majority, is Russia blackmailing Congress members into supporting him
Putin can make them all stop supporting trump just as easily.
Putin has already requested that Chuck Schumer write a strongly worded letter on his behalf.
Schumer said he would do it, but forgot 40 minutes later.
Oh no are they going to lose another million soldiers about it and crash their economy even harder?
Oh no. Anyways I still hope he gets the Gaddafi treatment and still don’t want America to go to war with Iran.
America just did go to war with Iran.
Eh, they’re still doing the announced tit for tat. Like after soleimani got schwacked, they lobbed missiles at a US airbase and that was the end of it. It’s saving face by doing something in response, but also not actually escalating by not inflicting any significant damages.
So, despite how ridiculous it looks calling for peace after an exchange of missiles, that’s probably what will happen. The only confounding factor is Israel and that may be the catalyst to sparking more conflict.
The fact that Trump is under the thumb of Israel, who want to obliterate Iran, and putin, who doesn’t, is entertaining to say the least. It’s a complete crap shoot how this ends up overall.
Creating “terrorists” a couple of planeloads of bombs at a time. This is not geopolitics. It’s war. Only the western world could be so crass. It’s only a couple of bombs on sovereign soil…meh. I say this as a Canadian. If the US lobbed bombs at us today I’d be on the warpath. I imagine there are some Iranians with those thoughts as well. It won’t be a one and done even if it’s not all out traditional war.
I’m not justifying the initial strikes, just saying that it probably won’t escalate. At least not immediately.
Killing Khamenei would be a bad move. That’s how martyrs are made, and they are already dialed up to 11 in Iran, so there is no reason to pour even more oil in the fire.
Khamenei is weak. Maybe he wasn’t in the beginning, but he has been for the past decade or so. Killing him is risky for US and Israel as that may potentially give Iran another stronger leader. Russia doesn’t want change either as Khamenei is known and manageable.
++reasonsToDoIt
They have an army of donkeys lined up at the border. etc
They need the donkeys to combat the antelope invasion though
“Russia is very afraid”, Peskov said. “We cannot afford to lose an already weakened partner in a region where Russia is losing more and more influence” he proceeded.
