• brad_troika@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    Why do you think that? How would losing half the military assets and technology would benefit NATO?

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      17 hours ago

      Half the military and technology assets that won’t ever actually be used to help NATO under Trump.

      He’ll veto every action that goes against Russia… Which is what NATO was originally formed to do…

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        4 hours ago

        US arms are still flowing to Ukraine and the sanctions against Russia still stand. I’m not saying things haven’t gotten worse under Trump but it’s clear that the US still has an anti-Russia policy.

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        11 hours ago

        NATO is not against russia. It is against certain things that russia does to its neighbours who subscribe to NATO membership.

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      18 hours ago

      The US is great at spending money in the military, but it absolutely sucks at actual war.

      Look how they wasted trillions in Afghanistan to surrender to the Taliban.

      the US military exists solely to funnel tax payer money to military shareholders.

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        4 hours ago

        Maybe it sucks holding the country or building new relations but it excels at invading it and did it successfully in Afghanistan as well.

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        8 hours ago

        basically like how the russians do it, with bodies, and money, except the usa wastes more money. no strategy, just keep throwing waves of campaign after campaign of wars, plus it also justify have a 800bn budget. tangentially, this is what mr benjamin is doing constant war aggression so he keeps getting aid from the us. Pakistan does it too, just pretend they are doing something about the taliban in thier borders, just to keep getting aid.

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        16 hours ago

        Actually, if you’re curious, look up how many wars the US has actually outright won on their own without being part of a coalition of allies.

        The answer is shockingly few.

        Even their great revolution needed help from an, at the time, true superpower i.e. the French.

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          16 hours ago

          checked a wiki page about that.

          it’s frankly embarrassing how much the US military actually sucks.

          likely human history most expensive military, and a complete waste of resources

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              8 hours ago

              it was always to justify the defense budget to go into the pockets of the contractors, the politicians and the lobbyists.

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                thats why they do these aggressive recruitment propaganda every few years, having a movie like top gun maverick helped alot last year and propaganda like business insider video of military jobs. and yes most of them are aimed at POCs. when obama came into power, recruitment/military was actually downsizing in a peacetime military, but trump reversed it the moment he was in his first time. i was in forums where it was when obama was in charge, it was getting harder and harder to get into the military(people were getting denied left and right for medical and financial and crime reasons that mightve seen consideration during the bush era), then i magically reversed the moment he left office.

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        11 hours ago

        yea Just like how the Afghans kicked expansionist russia out. Afghans are strong people. it is a place where empires go to commit suicide.

        Although US got Osama (hiding in Pakistan though).

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        18 hours ago

        I’ll grant you it’s a big racket, it’s corrupt, it’s inefficient, but I don’t think it’s a skill issue.

        https://youtu.be/d5v6hlRyeHE

        I wouldn’t consider failing to win the hearts and minds of the local populace using violence a military failure rather than a policy failure.

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          18 hours ago

          Ukraine showed that modern warfare is a different game than it used to.

          it’s s resource war, cheap drones can cause lots of damage, and it is far more costly to fight them. long range rockets, v defense systems…

          and given that US have painfully expensive toys, they won’t be able to hold of again a cheap enemy.

          yhea, Maybe the F22 can outmanoeuvre another airplane in a dogfight, but who tf needs a dogfight? the enemy can just launch a volley of self guided missiles that costs 100x to intercept.

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            22 minutes ago

            That’s true, but I doubt the US military is standing still on the drone front. Surely they’d be able to field their own swarms of drones. Perhaps some electronic warfare stuff too to disrupt drone communications. And if not at this moment, it won’t be long. Every military on Earth is learning from what we’re seeing.