Any nation that wants to keep their sovereignty needs nukes. Agreements like the Budapest Memorandum were a mistake for some of the countries involved (Ukraine).
Lol, I wonder when Ukrainians will connect the dots that they’re in this position solely because they put their faith into western powers that didn’t deliver on their side of the bargain.
Ukraine did not have the infrastructure at the time to be able to even safely store the nuclear weapons they had. The nukes weren’t going to stay either way at the time.
This is the correct answer.
The only thing that keeps imperialism at bay is mutually-assured destruction.
I mean, I have a chaotic solution we might try. Let’s simply…reverse the Budapest Memorandum! Let’s just hand Ukraine a few hundred thermonuclear warheads, with launchers and launch codes and say, “here, go have fun!”
“The president has announced…that we have reversed the Budapest Memorandum…”
:D
Every country needs to have a nuke, based on what we’re seeing the US and Israel do to Palestine and what Russia is doing to Ukraine.
Like is Palestine going to nuke us or Israel in your fantasy?
Yes more nukes for all! Let everyone fight over old land disputes too! If we remember the history of Afghanistan, we know that nuclear weapons were crucial in their efforts to topple the USSR and the USA!
I think the best example here is North Korea actually. Nothing stops imperialists in their tracks better than a nuclear program, and if we want a more peaceful world, the answer is every country having a nuke as that inspires more diplomacy and cooperation.
I still believe the time old tale, no one bothers North Korea because the humanitarian crisis it would cause… they don’t have a scary amount of nukes. Nor do they have the means to deliver them to us.
Lot of people in this sub really don’t understand nuclear doctrine or MAD. They don’t just make enemy’s go away, they just make them point more nukes at you…
How the fuck is it a good example? People are starving, their only real export is meth and the only countries pretending to deal with them are China and fucking russia. You seriously think that anyone considering taking over their territory would be worried that ancient soviet garbage will fly? Only reason Korea doesn’t take over is they know their country can’t survive infusion of starving, brainwashed masses that would take years to integrate into any modern society.
How the fuck is it a good example?
Maybe think about it a little before speaking.
Also, maybe consider your delivery.
Do you think you’re more likely to get a good response by leading off in hysterics and obscenities? Or do you think you could have led this off in a different way, such as: “I disagree for the following reasons.”
I want to welcome you to the internet. Place is wild.
I take it your agree it was a shit example since you didn’t provide any arguments to the opposite?
North Korea ain’t a good country. But it is a good example that having nukes prevents powerful countries from fucking with you.
No it isn’t. I explained exactly why. Country is tiny, they don’t have anything unique or especially valuable as far as natural resources and population is hungry and brainwashed. Those are the real reasons nobody bothers with them.
You should look up what America did to Korea before they had nukes.
You’re talking about Korean War? America defended Korea from Soviet attack. You’ve got some alternative history you’re operating with?
Where America firebombed Korea to the ground? Awesome defense.
Tell me how great Vietnam was next.
You keep saying Korea, but you keep talking about a different country. Yes, in response to an attack on Korea, US did firebomb the aggressor.
I hope the US would react the same way today, but unfortunately current senile and treasonous cunt would almost certainly act the way daddy puto tells him to.
Either way, ancient soviet nukes would play zero role in the decision making process. I seriously doubt even a slightly more advanced shithole like russia has the capacity to launch even 1% after decades of corruption and neglect of soviet assets. Fucking North Korea would certainly be erased off the face of the planet by any modern army without a single rocket being allowed to take off from their territory.
I need a nuke too! 🥺
The only way to stop a bad guy with a nuke…
The more nations that have them, the higher the chance they’ll be used. It’s going to happen sooner than we think.
I actually think the Star TREK First Contact dates may be right.
Anyone else feeling WW3 vibes yet? No? Just me? K
Rising fascism all over the place, what can possibly go wrong
Actually, no.
We’ve heard WW3 analogies tossed around for the last 30 years.
I think it’s more fair to say that we’re not facing WW3 precisely because the world has seen the destructive power of nuclear weapons and they’ve proliferated so much. That is, obviously, particularly true for Japan.
Denmark needs the nuke too to protect it self from Russia, but also the US.
Med plutonium tvingar vi dansken på knä
The Security Dilemma of international relations: Keeping your own country safe requires doing things that will make your neighbours feel less safe.
I thought Japan could never have an army again after WW2, never mind nukes??
They had restrictions on their military, which were recently (in the last decade or so) lifted.
Rules don’t seem to apply anymore, so fuck it
It’s been 80 years. Now USA is a bigger threat than japan.
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Let’s see next is Germany and Italy to say it.
Norway. And let them call it their berserker force.
You missed the Axis.
Didn’t realize you were going for that off of only Japan.
“Let’s see next is Germany and Italy to say it.”
If one country has nukes, all countries should have nukes. It’s only fair.
Oh yeah what a great idea, let yet another fascist country possess nukes. What could go wrong?
