• Photonic@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    What fault of ours is the invasion of your country by other white people from Europe hundreds of years ago? Our ancestors were the ones who stayed in Europe

    Edit: a lot of people seemed to have found the downvote button, but no one seems to have found the answer.

    Edit #2: still more downvotes, but nobody has answered my question, just some comments about colonialism and my stupidity.

    People are entirely missing the point: why should a grudge against some random other white people that have nothing to do with us stop you from rising up against this white person? Why should today’s Europeans “go fuck themselves” because of that? Wake up, stop making excuses and do something about it, go protest in the streets!

    • Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Moreover, it’s not a europe problem it’s a class problem. It wasn’t the builders, gardeners, and plumbers of Europe deciding to subjugate the world. It was the oligarchs. They were squeezing all they could out of Europe and it wasn’t enough for them. So they dressed it up as duty to the country/religion to expand, but it was a way of enriching themselves.

      Many Scottish crofters were also forced off their land during the sheep clearances when the lairds figured out that removing the population and replacing them with sheep was more profitable. They would either buy up the land and evict the crofters or charge them for fabricated crimes and send them to Australia. The place I grew up has a population of around 10% of what it should be because of this practice (that’s after steady growth in the last few decades).

      It’s also worth mentioning that a lot of the settlers from Scotland who joined the Hudson Bay company for example, did so because they couldn’t earn enough to survive at home. Both because of taxes from the lairds and low wages.

      So yes Europeans moved to America, but for most of them it was a matter of survival, not greed.

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      2 months ago

      Ah yes I see European solidarity is alive and well. No chance you’ll ever have fascism again over there with statements like that. Truly a bastion of the brightest and best ideals of humanity.

      /s