French President Emmanuel Macron on Saturday, February 14, urged calm and restraint after the fatal beating of a 23-year-old French youth aligned with the far-right on the sidelines of a conference by a hard-left lawmaker in the southeastern city of Lyon.

The death of the young man – identified only as Quentin – has intensified tensions between France’s far-right and radical left who are both eyeing 2027 presidential elections.

He had been hospitalized in Lyon on Thursday after being attacked while providing what his supporters said was security for a protest against an appearance by hard-left MEP Rima Hassan at the Lyon branch of the Sciences Po university.

  • Crankenstein@lemmy.world
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    Their “political beliefs” are inherently violent and actively seek to oppress and cause harm to those they deem as “lesser”. Don’t try to downplay this with silvery words.

    It doesn’t matter if they are angry and confused when they are actively creating a hostile environment for those they victimize. We first must protect our communities. So, they have two options: stop spouting their bullshit so we can ensure the safety and comfort of our community or be stopped by any means necessary. If they end up dead then they made their choice to die on the hill of supporting oppression.

    We should be going after the root cause, yes, but first we must build our communities so that we can have the foundation to do so and we cannot accomplish that while we have fascist supporters actively breaking that community down by spreading their hatred.

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      Ahh, so you’re trying to stop violence with a “preemptive” strike? It’s better to kill them now so they don’t kill others later?

      Kind of ironic, don’t you think?

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        What a blatant interpretation of what I said.

        It isn’t preemptive. It is direct, self defense against it. They start it by engaging in inherently violent rhetoric. We then tell them to stop spouting their oppressive bullshit. If they don’t, they will be made to stop to defend the community against them and protect those who they are attempting to marginalize.

        If you cannot understand this simple explanation, then you cannot be helped or are clearly arguing in bad faith.

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        If you don’t remove all of the cancer and rot, it will continue to fester and grow until it kills the host.

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          So you think it makes more sense to target the symptom rather than the cause?

          You’re not just advocating for this because it’s easier and more convenient than going after the source?

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            Fuck your false dichotomy bullshit.

            You can treat the symptoms while working to cure the cause. The two are not mutually exclusive. Each has merit and doing both simultaneously has compounding benefits.

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                Specifically those who disagree with my right to live. If you disagree on any other front, there’s no reason for violence.

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                    • Literally by holding the opinion that people like myself shouldn’t exist
                    • Supporting people who are actively killing people like myself
                    • Encouraging others to incite violence towards us
                    • Supporting policy that would kill many of us
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                Oh fuck of with that disingenuous “people who disagree with you” bullshit.

                You’re clearly here in bad faith.

                Fuck off, fascist sympathizer.

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            The last time fascism rose globally 70 million people died. Fascism is a cancer that needs to be cut out and destroyed or it will multiply and destroy everything and everyone in its path. It’s global cancer

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        What is preemptive about people fighting back against their active oppressors?

        Where do you draw the line of acceptable self-defense? Or are you just one of those “AlL viOlEnCE iS bAD nO mATteR tHe cONteXT!” idiots?