• Tja@programming.dev
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          12 days ago

          Yes, Putin probably enjoys this, but this is not trump alone. He has the support of the whole republican party, or at least 95% of it.

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            12 days ago

            He has support of the US. They voted for him and for his ‘opposition’ of cowards that can do nothing but watch cry crocodile tears.

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            12 days ago

            I agree it’s not but like AIPAC I don’t think it’s a stretch that the broader cartel that is the GOP realizes their reelection hinges on the bilateral relationship with Russia. They’ve been in cahoots for at least 2 decades or more.

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          12 days ago

          Well don’t think he’s that happy since his supply of drones most likely has dried up

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            12 days ago

            If I understand right, ruzzia has long since started to develop and innovate domestically upon the design of Shaheds, and I don’t think they were receiving that many relative to domestic production, though I agree it’s a thorn in Putin’s side presumably.

            Though I have some other theories as to the bigger game being played here but just theories and speculation.

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        12 days ago

        “russia would do” - when you say that to yourself remember that phrase is propaganda. it’s literally some shit the USA did do. Your “IDK” is cognitive dissonance.

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            12 days ago

            Lol. We aren’t the new Russia. We’re just continuing to be the same war crime committing monsters we’ve been for centuries.

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            Bruh you’re not the “new Russia”, Russia is america Lite. Has been since the fall of the USSR. You’ve always been this. You killed millions of Iraqi while pretending to liberate them. Same in Vietnam, same in Korea.

            This is what you’ve always been; hopefully when Trump is out of office you stay in reality and don’t fall back to the dream you believed prior to Trump.

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      11 days ago

      Every statement of this tweet is factually false.

      The US did and does horrible things, but the attack of this ship was legal: https://www.uwa.edu.au/news/article/2026/march/us-sank-an-iranian-warship-and-didnt-rescue-survivors-is-this-legal-in-war

      It was a cruel and cynical attack, but it adhered to the rules of warfare.

      This doesn’t change that Trump is a monster and this war is horrible, but this torpedo attack itself was legal.

      Edit: anybody thinking I’m defending Trump or his war on Iran can check my post history. This is my post from literally 1 day ago:

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      Lot of gymnastics here. This is pretty simple: do not move your unarmed warship through international waters so you can arm it and join an active conflict while your aggressor is literally right next to you.

      The Iranian admiral who ordered this ship to sail is an idiot and this ship was fair game.

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      12 days ago

      There is no carpet bombing of Tehran. This person is thus not a reputable source and you need to start doubting the rest of the claims until you find a better source.

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        12 days ago

        Ryan Grim is an investigative journalist who has a strong track record of accurate and groundbreaking reporting. Whatever semantics arguments you have doesn’t make him any less reputable or this statement any less correct.

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            He’s providing context to help people understand what a Kurdish Iranian imam was saying about a washed up son of a former dictator. I’m not sure what’s more pathetic, your lack of reading comprehension or that you genuinely think Pahlavi is an “Iranian opposition leader”. lol

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              Reza Pahlavi is the de facto opposition leader. I know this, because I’m knee deep in the Iranian comma through family and friends. I speak the language and follow their media.

              There’s a lot of other things I found when cursorily looking into Ryan Grim and Drop Site News, of which he’s a co-founder.

              For example, they’re interviewing Iran’s deputy foreign minister without asking any uncomfortable questions: https://www.youtube.com/live/9pU9x3sQ2-s

              The coverage of the January 8-9 massacres is severely lacking. There is a lot of space given to the Islamic regime’s propaganda, for example this piece that claims to be “from the ground”: https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/interview-tehran-iran-protests-internet-blackout-israel-trump-pahlavi-riots

              This account tries extremely hard to paint a picture that an organization was behind the protests, that it is “inorganic”. The articles spreads misinformation, distorts reality and ignores the brutality of the Islamic regime.

              So what I see when I look at Ryan Grim’s reporting, is cherry picking of sources to fit an agenda.

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                Yeah sure, the guy cheering on as the US and Israel murder Iranian children and civilians is such an outstanding leader. He’s so good at opposing Iran, he claps when the blood of Iranian children is spilled. That will surely show those mullahs! What else can you expect from son of a dictator. His father committed mass atrocities against the Iran people after overthrowing Iranian democracy with the support of the CIA. Those are definitely the qualifications Iranian people want in a leader. It’s certainly not just the US, Israel, and a number of bitter exiled monarchists pretending Pahlavi is king.

                Also it’s really hilarious that you linked pieces by Jeremy Scahill. The guy is an even better journalist than Ryan Grim. He won a number of awards for his on the ground reporting on American wars in the Middle East. How arrogant do you have to be to assume you know the region better than he does?

                Also he’s not saying the protests were “inorganic”. Thats just a lie. He’s trying to understand to what extent Israeli and American assets acted as agent provocateurs which isn’t a crazy thing to try and investigate! It’s a known fact that the CIA and Mossad operate in Iran and have carried out acts of sabotage and assassination. Do you really think on the advent of a war the US and Israel wouldn’t try to take advantage of internal unrest? Amazing lol

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        12 days ago

        They mean striking civilian targets when they say carpet bombing, they don’t mean WW2 style mass dumb bombing.

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          They mean what they say and it is propaganda. In addition, the amount of civilian targets hit are few. The Islamic regime itself is responsible for a lot more deaths. The opinions of regime-critical Iranians inside the country can be summarized like this: yes, bombs are scary, but the regime is more scary.

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            12 days ago

            Bro two hospitals and a school where they haven’t shown a valid target nearby is three civilian targets too many for the most technologically advanced military in the world.

            Double tapping is just fuel on a bonfire but sure if prevaricating for fascists is your deal then carry on.

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            11 days ago

            The Islamic regime itself is responsible for a lot more deaths.

            STOP JUSTIFYING THIS. YOU. ARE. BRAINWASHED.

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    It’s weird how the US is turning into everything it fought against. Was fun while it lasted.

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      This is the US and it always has been. The current administration is just stupider than previous ones. They don’t realize that hiding US war crimes served a purpose. They think bragging about their depravity will halt American decline. In reality, it will do the opposite as people like you lose faith in the inherent virtue of the American project.

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        11 days ago

        current administration is just stupider

        Imagine that they are not. What if they figured that they can’t hide the crimes and that they are going to do so many that they have to get the population used to it. Trump is no mistake but a solution.

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      11 days ago

      the us has always been like this.

      the monroe doctrine and overt colonialism have only been revived.

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      11 days ago

      John McCain is celebrating wildly in Hell. Bombing Iran has been an American dream for decades!

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    This is just the start. The old world broke once russia invaded Ukraine and we did nothing. Now other countries have realized that the world wont do anything if they also attack. Expansion has once again started. I expect Taiwan to be finished by summer too.

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      What old world? The US committing war crimes is par for the course. This is the same kind of shit the US did in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, and more. The cruelty is the point. The difference now is that the current administration is too stupid to lie about it.

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      I get this vibe that no one knows what’s going on anymore and everything is just running on the fumes of the zeitgeist and conspiracy theories.

      I find the fact that the whole world “knows” that China will invade Taiwan in 2027 to be really strange. And this has been the case for years. It feels like certain groups are taking it as a foregone conclusion.

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        Because in a sea of massive uncertainty and chaos that’s around us today, China invading Taiwan in the middle of this makes the most sense out of anything that’s happening right now. It makes so much sense, that everyone has collectively realized it would be stupid for China not to invade Taiwan right now.

        I mean, it’s really, really bad for the world, but it would be stupid if they didn’t do it and take advantage of what’s happening everywhere.

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    11 days ago

    So we blew up a ship because it belonged to the wrong country and not because it was a threat?

    It sure sounds like our country is at war with their country. Good thing my super trustworthy government got out ahead of that one and told us it’s not a war.

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      no, you see… they are at war with us but we are just pre-empting their threats. Like… have you seen the way these people stared at us? They clearly hated us for some reason. And you know how dangerous people are when they are that full of hatred

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        Iran doesn’t like Israel so it was a pre-preemptive strike on behalf of our dearest ally.

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      Not only that, but it sure looked like they waited for them to muster at a known time and then hit that section of the ship.

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    It’s in the same category as the Highway of Death, where it’s not technically a war crime, but it’s close enough to one that you get the feeling that it should be.

    It’s a moot point anyway, as even if the girls school bombing and any other reported attacks on civilian targets were completely accidental and unintentional, the following two crimes would still have been committed by the Amero-Israeli politicians and brass:

    1. Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of a crime against peace
    2. Planning, initiating and waging wars of aggression and other crimes against peace

    Rudolph Hess was found guilty of the above two crimes (but not to war crimes or crimes against humanity) at Nuremberg and sentenced to life in prison. War crimes and crimes against humanity are very provable against a lot of the Israeli brass and political elite, as well as the American political elite, and those crimes were often met with a sentence of execution.

    It’s very unlikely that we’ll get a Nuremburg out of this whole thing, but the legal precedent is quite clear.

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      Oh this is definitely a war crime. It was murder, they were not even at war with us. We found a helpless ship and sunk it for fun killing the majority of the sailors. Absolutely disgusting.

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        It’s always a bit of a fuzzy line when it comes to submarine warfare, especially in modern times. A submarine on the surface is so vulnerable that in most military contexts, it would be suicidal to surface in a combat zone. At the same time, a military ship is a completely legitimate target, even if it’s defenceless. However, this wasn’t exactly a “combat zone”, since it was a ship with no escorts known to be defenceless, and very far from any friendly forces capable of assisting it or attacking the submarine.

        The rules and customs of war at sea definitively state that you have to offer aid to the crew of a ship you sink. They didn’t do that, they just left them for dead. You could argue that a submarine doesn’t have the capability to render aid, given the aforementioned necessity of staying submerged, but there was another option. They could have stayed at periscope depth (they were already at periscope depth in order to film the heckin epic sinking of a defenceless ship), radioed them with an order to stop and informed them that they had 10 minutes to abandon ship before they were sunk, and then torpedoed them. This would have satisfied the rules and customs of war, and still have gotten them their torpedo video, while not endangering the sub (especially since Iran had no way to hit it back).

        In short, I’ve definitely come around to the position that this was a war crime, but I would argue that it is only so because they either didn’t render aid when they could have, or because they didn’t give warning (given that they would argue that they couldn’t render aid) when they could have. Don’t take explanation of the nuance of the situation as sympathy fot the americans, if there was a button that would kill every american service member i would press it without hesitation.

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    The US desperately needs to change the regime, because otherwise they know the same will happen to their oil tankers eventually.