In a letter sent Thursday to Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, the lawmakers say that because VPNs obscure a user’s true location, and because intelligence agencies presume that communications of unknown origin are foreign, Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they’re entitled to under the law.

Several federal agencies, including the FBI, NSA, and FTC, have recommended that consumers use VPNs to protect their privacy. But following that advice may inadvertently cost Americans the very protections they’re seeking.

The letter was signed by members of the Democratic Party’s progressive flank: Senators Ron Wyden, Elizabeth Warren, Edward Markey, and Alex Padilla, along with Representatives Pramila Jayapal and Sara Jacobs.

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    Lmao then they bitch and moan when people abroad start cutting back on us-based tech and enforcing open standards

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    I hate the way this is getting it twisted.

    Just because your signal is misinterpreted does not mean you’ve waived your rights. It means their system and it’s use of citizen’s data is flawed and violates the law.

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    So in the US, locking your metaphorical doors or windows, or closing your digital curtains, means that authorities can presume you are hiding something and your 4th Amendments rights cease to be valid.

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      Well, while I agree with that sentiment, you may be looking at it the wrong way.

      It’s not that locking your doors gives them permission, it’s that they’re just doing it whether you lock your doors or not.

      Imagine you’re the NSA, imagine you’re already spying on every American who isn’t using a VPN (not because you have any legal right to, but because you can). Now ask yourself, where’s your biggest blind spot?

      This is why they want legal permission to spy on people using VPNs. If they can do it legally, they can just walk right into a VPN’s server room and install whatever eyes they want on the inside.

      All I’m saying, is that there is no constitutional justification for this, they don’t care. Their plan is simple, spy on everyone, fuck the law.

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    After what Snowden has uncovered, Palantir plain in the open, companies like Meta/Facebook and Alphabet/Google shitting on your privacy , I am absolutely sure you will be subject to spying always and regardless of what you’re doing.

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    Does anyone seriously believe that not using a VPN would save you from governmental snooping?

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    Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they’re entitled to under the law.

    lmao

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    Lmao, what privacy protections? This is the land of the grift, you’re more protected using a VPN than without one.

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    I’m curious how this works in action. If you use a VPN provider that doesn’t do logging, and inherently you’re traffic is encrypted via that VPN, what are they spying on? That’s kind of the whole purpose of running a VPN in the first place.

    If they happen to somehow see the unencrypted traffic, I hope they enjoy sifting through ass loads of torrent data. Good luck, shit bags.

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    Just think of all the children they will be protecting! (Sarcasm)

    I note the range of Republicans and dRepublicans (Democrats are Republicans in every meaningful way) who support this action (not sarcasm)

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    like in the old days of illegal wiretapping when throughout the conversation one would randomly say “bomb”, “arson”, “nuke” etc. It’s time to use more VPN to generate such a level of white noise where it becomes impractical to track VPN access…

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      like in the old days of illegal wiretapping when throughout the conversation one would randomly say “bomb”, “arson”, “nuke” etc.

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    Doesn’t CGNat obscure the user true location in the same way? And what kind of VPN are we talking about? Company with exit node in the country? Commercial ones only?

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      I guess I am on the “watch list” as my company uses multiple different VPN solutions so I can access work files cross offices and remotely when in the field.

      Also, what about personal home VPNs where I want to route all my device traffic back to my home when I am out of the house like at a cafe/mall/airport?