• teolan@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Fuck religion but fuck stupid laws like this. Seriously this is just as stupid as the age verification stuff everyone he is mad about.

    People have the right to do their rituals if it makes them feel good…

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      Not only that, but if you want to end religion, causing people to think their religion is under attack from the outside is the best way to isolate everyone in that religion and make them far more likely to stay in that religion for life.

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    Instead of feel-good measures like this, they should TAX mosques, churches, temples, prayer sheds, whatever. (it feels good to ME, anyway)

    In USA, religions pay virtually nothing, with many more benefits than any secular charity or non-profit.

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      The lack of oppression, there are people who got too comfortable with the illusion of power. Hence, they have to generate misery while they still can.

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        No, I think is more absurd. They look at the US and overcorrect. There’s a reasonable middle ground where a grey area in processing works itself out after a few generations. That is totally skipped with this volatile approach.

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    Minister Roberge has previously stated that street prayers could be considered “acts of provocation.”

    Municipalities will be able to authorize them, but only under certain criteria. The new law will also ban the wearing of religious symbols by daycare educators. The government is also extending this ban to teachers and staff at private schools.

    Bloody ridiculous. This helps nobody.

    • Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world
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      Atheism is a religious stance, and is practiced like one. When it’s used to harm non-believers especially it’s really easy to see this.

      I wouldn’t give Christians or any other religion a pass on this, so I’m not giving Atheists one either.

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        No, it’s not.

        Not watching football isn’t a “football stance”.

        Not eating pork chops isn’t a “pork chop stance”.

        Not drinking jagermeister isn’t a “jagermeister stance”.

        Not reading Spider-Man comics isn’t a “Spider-Man stance”.

        Not being religious isn’t a “religious stance”.

        Not doing something isn’t a stance on that something, that’s goofy

      • Wataba@sh.itjust.works
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        Good thing your opinion means jack shit, because your basis is fundamentally flawed and incorrect.

        • Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world
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          Do you think it shows weakness to be polite to those you disagree with? I think it works better to approach people with respect if I want them to consider what I’m saying. It already feels like an attack when someone says you’re wrong, and I don’t want to harden minds against what I think is right.

          I’m not always good at it, and I have spoken to people harshly often. It never produced anything but hard feelings on their part. I think it can be satisfying to be mean, and I was looking for an excuse to act in a way that’s less moral without feeling bad about myself. I think even if I was right, I usually didn’t need to be mean about it.

          I think that it’s likely nothing I’m doing on this website is important enough to justify me being unkind about it.

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        Get back to me when there are “discussion rooms” for practising atheists in public spaces 😆

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          If it’s sauce for the goose, it’s sauce for the gander. Whatever your belief of lack of it, I want to see you respected and treated well.

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          Thanks.

          If whatever you believe means you feel you have the right to be unkind to people who believe otherwise, it’s problematic. Even if you want to hold onto a different definition of whatever it is you believe, if you use it as an excuse to be unkind it’s still a problem. It’s not the label that’s the problem, it’s the behavior.

          If you end up acting just like them, why should anyone believe you’re any different?

          Very “it’s not a warcrime if it’s not wartime” energy.

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            Sounds something that a nazi would say.

            It’s the same tolerance paradox. I don’t have to be kind if your “beliefs” create suffering.

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                Text comprehension isn’t your strongest side, is it? But then again, religion has been suppressing education for centuries, so it makes sense.

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                  Though obviously I’d prefer a more civil exchange of ideas I can’t deny the ego boost of seeing someone give up. Once it’s down to name calling, it means you gave up on arguing your point.

                  When people have the faith in their ideas to agree to disagree, they don’t need to resort to name calling. People feel threatened and lash out. It’s understandable.

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    I don’t believe in any religion, don’t like religion, but I also realize that it’s not the governments place to tell people what they can and can’t believe.

    Besides that, given the specifics of this law it’s rather easy to see it’s not even about religion as a whole. It’s just more Islamophobia.

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    Something something France light.

    Also related but isn’t Canada super immigrant dense anyway? If you ignored the architecture, you could genuinely confuse some areas for South Asia lol.

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    Wasn’t the Supreme Court supposed to give its verdict on this? So either the court said nothing or the QC government just passed it anyway.

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    “If you are a minority, specifically one that has to pray 5 times throughout the day, you don’t get university anymore.”

    - Fr*nce.

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    Lemmy “leftists” out here defending religion at any cost

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      I don’t hate random people believing in their religion, I hate people using religion as an excuse to force laws that oppress minorities.