• CircaV@lemmy.ca
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    Appalling, craven, cowardly, and pathetic hubris on the part of PeePee and conservative sycophants. A deep shame on rural Alberta for being such uncritical lemmings.

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      They haven’t voted yet. I, for one, am not holding my breath, but maybe there will be a silver lining of hope that he doesn’t get elected, especially if an independent runs against him. Now, to get the independent candidate riled up and in place. I have a vivid imagination. Lol

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      Some of his ideas, like defunding CBC, are foolish.

      I don’t think Pierre Poilievre is a Nazi. Statements like that are unhelpful.

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        The dude is aligned with trump and is a fascist. I wouldn’t call them nazis just yet, but they are certainly very, very fascist.

        I work in a very conservative workplace in Alberta, and when I call trump a fascist I get zero pushback. In fact, they just nod in agreement. When I say that Peter rabbithait is aligned with trump, they don’t argue against that point either.

        The “good ones” know their support for him is short lived, and they will have to piss or get off the pot soon. I hope goodness prevails.

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        arguably worse, pp is a weasel who would play a nazi for a vote or stop for 2

        the guy stnds for whtever serves him best

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        I agree, it sucks when Americans try to project their issues onto us.

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        Oh ffs. Stop playing it down. Look at the riding he’s being given. Battle river. It’s conspiracy city. Far cry from Carleton… I know that part of Alberta well . I’m telling you right now: it ain’t good . He went from serving coffee to the convoy to living with them.

        Step off with the gaslighting. This is the type of exact crap the Americans just went through. Knock it the hell off.

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        He likes to dine with Nazis, and we all know the old adage about Nazis at a dinner table.

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        Hey, just wanted to say you’re right. And these people here are bad faith commentators. They push things towards hyperbolic statements in the same way the right went nuts in their own way.

        Unfortunately I fear this is what we have to come to accept now until everything blows up.

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            Seriously consider what you’re saying here. That PP is a Nazi, he clearly is not, while telling me my head is up my ass

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              People running for high office that make campaign stops with white supremacists are 100% nazis, no exaggeration necessary.

              People that are not nazis don’t tolerate nazis.

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                If you use the word nazi enough it won’t mean anything, and you will push awayl soft support. They are fascists plain and simple.

                Just call them that for now until one of them gets their Hugo boss uniforms on, then you can call them nazis.

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                No, what you’re doing is lazily leveraging the nazi context for your political benefit. PP is not a Nazi for having a photo op or being tangentially associated with some asshole. It’s as lazy as showing pictures of people with Epstein and calling them pedophiles because they were in a photo.

                It’s bullshit politics. The sad part is that you will never realize how it’s your credibility that is lost. And unfortunately since you associate with certain values, you lose credibility for the whole. There’s reason to shit on him for spending time with these people. But when you go hyperbolic and dramatically call him a Nazi, you lose the plot

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        People said the same thing about MAGA/Trump.

        Conservatives are holding the door open for fascism, and if you can’t close it, it will come in.

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    Shouldn’t there be some kind of election to fill the seat the politician resigned from? Otherwise, they could just have supermodels with masters degrees running for office, then resigning so a Nazi with a beer belly and a GED can take over.

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      There will be a by-election and I’m sure someone will run against him from another party, but it’s a very conservative riding, so he’ll probably win pretty easy. But it would be the funniest thing ever if somehow he did manage to loose.

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    If it was the other way around he’d never let Carney hear the end of it - “Carney, the guy who had to get someone else to quit in order to keep his seat”.

    Politicians gonna politics, no surprise there.

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      He already didn’t let Carney hear the end of it - “Carney, who was not elected…”

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      82% in favour of conservatives during the last election but Carney can wait 6 months to launch the by-election, that might be long enough to piss off some conservatives that might want to get rid of PP.

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        He says he won’t wait and will call the by-election right away.

        It’s bonkers, and certainly PP would never do such a thing in return, but not doing it would just lead to 6 months of "Carney is a coward who won’t let me in because I am always right and he hates that.

        This snowflake is going to get treated with kid gloves over and over, and he isn’t going to learn a thing, will never return the courtesy, and continue to drag Canada and Canadians down as he goes.

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          Something I find pretty crazy is that he’s pushing out someone who was close to reaching 6 years of service, meaning that person is giving up on 6 years of pension contribution because MPs need to be in their position for 6 years to be eligible to keep it. What they contributed will be given back to them but in the end they won’t have much to show for their service when they retire.

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      He probably will but it will be on an issue by issue basis. Carney only needs three votes from any of the Bloc Québécois or the NDP to pass anything. He can pull from either party.

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      To form an alliance you mean? The Bloc Quebecois already said they’ll be quiet for the next year as there’s lots to do, having two parties to work with means you don’t necessarily need to always bend the same way so it’s advantageous to leave the door open to sometimes compromise left and sometimes compromise in favour of what Quebec wants…

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    I for one didn’t expect someone to resign this quickly.

    PP has Mr. Kurek to thank. Some of you will understand this statement differently than others. 😂

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      This isn’t the first time this kind of thing has happened, provincially or federally, and it tends to be resolved pretty quickly. The same thing happened when Trudeau took leadership, for reference. Now, certainly this happens a lot less often when a party leader loses in a riding he previously held, but the mechanics are the same. Get a new leader, have a leader who can’t vote or perhaps speak in Parliament, or have a by-election in a safe riding.

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        Can you expand on that thing about when Trudeau took leadership, or link to an article, I’m not sure I remember this situation.

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          My bad, he was in fact elected in a general election, although there were rumors about him running in a by-election shortly before that, and all of that was before he was even leadervof the Liberals. I honestly, don’t remember anything about him in politics prior to leading the Liberals except that half-remembered by-election tidbit.

          Another relevant example would be when Preston Manning resigned and Stephen Harper ran in his riding after being newly chosen to lead the Conservatives. There were a number of reasons for that to happen, and a bit of political maneuvering to have them all happen at the same time.

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            Thanks.

            Yeah I understand why these manuvres are used, and sometimes would benefit democracy.

            In this case PP was shown the door by his own riding, I think that either shows: a) the people do not want him in office, in which case this is just sidestepping democracy, or b) the conservatives failed to place their own leader in a "safe"enough riding, which shows a clear problem with that parties management, lead by PP, in which case he should probably move along as well.

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              I’ve said elsewhere there were only 3 real options available to them, and this was one of them. The fact of the matter is, the leader of the Conservative Party is chosen by Conservatives and he gets elected by a riding, and those are two different things. Now, if the people in this new riding think he should be gone, then he most likely will be, both from that riding and the party. And if Conservatives in general think this was the wrong choice for the party, we will see the results of that in the next general election if not sooner.

              Now, I’m not saying I disagree with your assessment, and I personally think the Conservatives made the wrong choice (not surprising, I didn’t vote for them), but these are the choices we’ve established in our system. Perhaps this is one that should be changed, perhaps not.