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A bit late that,
As an American, I would love to move to Mexico. I have brought up the idea with my family but there are reasons to stay currently.
This answers the question I had, about what happens if a worker does in fact work longer than that.
Employees can work overtime during the workweek, but no more than 12 hours total, with a maximum of four hours on any given day and no more than four overtime days per week.
I wonder what the rules are around having a second job?
In most countries a second job is just not really allowed without your primary employer’s approval. Which they are very unlikely to give. It’s more a US thing for people who have problems making ends meet.
It depends on the nature of the job.
If you are a educated professional, then companies get pissy about how your second job might interfere with your primary work and erode some competitive advantage.
If you are working hours in a fast food place, they don’t give a shit unless you fail to cover your shifts and never are available to pick up a shift for someone who can’t cover theirs.
Many countries, sure. It would not be true for most countries. Not to mention freelance work, consulting gigs, or general self employment on the side.
How common it is may be different than whether or not it is allowed.
Mexico is amending it’s constitution and the US can’t even pass a budget to keep it’s fucking bridges from collapsing. Meanwhile USA calls Mexico a failed state lol.
its, not it’s.
Its, not “its”.
tits
Well, Americans are too cowardly to start breaking shit. What do you expect?
Don’t know where all the 2015-20 riot energy went.
Even that energy was pretty fucking weak considering the situation. It would have been insufficient even in the face of Bush-era GOP misbehavior.
Just look at the awful things a woman president will do.
Let’s pretend the Queen of England didn’t just finally fuck off or all the other female authoritarians/war criminals, let’s remove her agency and attribute any good she does to being a woman.
It’s more sexist than the implication itself.
Margaret Thatcher was UK’s Reagan. Everything she didn’t ruin herself; she readied to be ruined later.
It wasn’t because she was a woman. It was because she was a freaking neoliberal.
It’s also just really fucking annoying that this platitude comes up every time a headline is posted about a woman doing good, as if people are just incapable of thinking it through.
Neither Clinton nor Harris would have supported this, and in fact, they’d have told their rotating villains to oppose it and claimed powerlessness, as Dems always do. (Which is, in part, why they lost their elections.)
bUt SeXiSm
Okay, run an actual leftist woman and isolate the variables.
Can’t wait for American illegal immigrants to get deported from Mexico
That’s already a problem in Mexico. American immigrants have been moving to the nice parts of Mexico, and they have been inflating the ever living fuck out of the prices there. American money is unmatched, and no Mexican business is going to dumb enough to let it slip by. They’ve been increasing prices and catering to Americans to the point where Mexicans are being squeezed out entirely from the equation.
There are parts of Mexico city where Mexicans are completely priced out. People with houses in the nice parts try to sell them to Americans to get more money. Developers are building condo buildings that cater to American styles, and they’re entirely branded and marketed in English. Businesses in the area notice the increase in Americans walking around and jack up their prices to get a share of the pie themselves, which leads Americans to get another part of the city that’s still cheap to get the most out of their money repeating the cycle. Americans have already been doing this to countries like Spain, Portugal, and Italy, but now they’re doing it to Mexico too.
Damn, here I thought I was making a bad joke, but reality seems to be a bad joke these days.
theoretically, the whole population should be able to profit from the influx of money if it’s properly distributed. that seems to me to be more an issue with taxation than with overtourism.
You’ll never reach a situation where the redistribution compensates in the same proportion than the price increase.
That’s the beauty of the Mexican project. They’re going to accommodate the refugees in a way Americans refused to do. And they’re going to become a better country for it
“The reform does not mandate two rest days per week. […] create the conditions under which a four-day working week becomes practically achievable for the first time for a significant portion of the Mexican workforce.”
Mexico is one of the few countries with only a 1-day weekend, along with:
- Colombia, Bolivia, Equatorial Guinea, Honduras, Hong Kong, North Korea, Pakistan, Philippines, Uganda, and India (Sundays);
- Djibouti (only 40h/w tho), Palestine, Iran, and Somalia (Fridays); and
- Nepal (only 42h/w tho) (Saturdays).
can we get her to be the PM of more countries pls
Impressive.
we need more social populism. this is a good example of it.
Pretty soon, Mexico will pay for the wall, to keep illegal Americans out.
4D chess!But wait…who is gonna pay for it…sorry American here its a habit.
American Democracy incoming into Mexico, please stand by.
Can she somehow come to the UK
nuh duh, because free market
We have similar laws here in Spain but it is a bit annoying, my employer is making me ‘clock in clock out’ now all the time. So they can comply with this stuff.
Previously I just worked when I needed to, I work in IT and I was often flexible, hopping out to the shop or the doctor during the day and in the evening I’d hop on a call with someone in Australia. But now everything has to be formalised and officially requested which is honestly annoying. So I tend to just report bullshit hours and do whatever I did before, there’s just another bullshit bureaucracy load on me. I was not being exploited and probably worked less than my requisite hours. Just saying these things can backfire as well.
Meanwhile the Indian guy in the mini market downstairs still works 12 hours a day because they only look at large corporations when they enforce this. Which weren’t the ones where the problem was in the first place. Because nobody bothers to check the little businesses.
I’m not against laws preventing the abuse of employees, but I mean it just feels I got the short end of the stick, again. The company just shifted their responsibility onto me. People just report fantasy hours, the company is happy because they ‘comply’ and nothing actually changed.
Alright but surely you understand that a lot of people were being exploited and this is a good change for them?
Yes but they still are, that’s the thing. The big corporations just added another layer of pretend compliance and the rest is not policed.
I think the politicians came off with a publicity win but nothing was actually changed in practice.
Yes I do understand I’m just a capitalist so I’ll pretend it affects me negatively. Think about my strawman instead
hint: you’re not a capitalist, you’re a piece of capital in a system that requires you to sell yourself to the owners so you can afford to live. you’re a “resource.”
I’m not a capitalist, but I do hate bureaucracy. Especially when it’s just a fantasy for the sake of compliance. Because nobody I know actually reports their real hours. The company just tells the employees they are responsible for timekeeping. If you don’t report the exact number of official hours every day you get penalised. Besides that the pressure on employees (not on me like I said but on some others in the same company yes) is still as hard as ever. I have no ambitition to rise in my career so for me it’s a bit different.
What I object to is this law not actually improving things but companies weaseling out of it as usual.
If nobody reports their real hours, why do you complain in the first place? Time reports take 5 minutes, tops. I know because I had to do it for a while.
Because it’s another hassle in my work day. Like I said I hate bureaucracies, especially unnecessary ones.
Five minutes is a hassle now?
What’s the alternative, then? Employers reporting employees time?
This doesn’t mean anything because a lot of work in Mexico is informal and done in cash, and so these changes won’t have an effect on the people who need them the most.
Besides, the country is going through an existential crises right now with the cartels ripping the country apart. A lot of people are already criticizing her for not focusing on the most pressing problems, and they’re right. This is nice in theory, but things like crime and violence have gotten so out of hand that parts of the country are unlivable for the average folk. She’s being increasingly regarded by Mexicans as another cartel stooge in office.
The only way to address systemic problems like crime and violence in any meaningful way is addressing the underline problem that pushed people to commit crimes. That underline problem is quality of life which is directly related to income.
Taking people out of the informal job market is another problem to tackle that can be helped with having better work laws. Having good working laws stimulate people to get jobs in the formal market and avoid offers for informal work even if with better pay. That is not a problem that would be solved in the short term but this laws will help with that. The same approach was used in other countries and together with more government enforcement and fiscalizaton of the companies you see great improvement over the years and decades migrating people to the formal job market and reduction in crimes and violence.
You would be right if we were talking about normal crime and violence, but we’re not. The cartels aren’t made up of poor people who are committing crimes out of desperation. The people who are in the cartels do the most horrific things just to join, and once they join, they’re in for life. They have very organized hierarchies that keep a strict order, that’s why they’re massive crime syndicates.
They abduct people from their houses, they assassinate politicians, they hold public executions, burn down businesses who don’t pay extortion fees, they torture people they kidnap, they rig elections, they put their corrupted judges and politicians in power, and the list goes on and on. They’re even starting to control the country’s biggest industries. For example, there’s a good chance that the avocadoes you buy from the store came from a cartel controlled farm. Things were bad before, but they’re especially bad now with the Sinaloa cartel being fractured. There’s a lot of cartels competing for the top spot and things are ugly, really ugly. Some of the cartels are especially brutal just for the sake of it like Jalisco New Generation.
Mexico is a very unequal country. The nice areas are very nice. They’re safe, peaceful, have tourists, and are relatively wealthy. But the bad areas? They’re not even controlled by the government, they’re ruled by the cartels. They have so much violence that Mexico as a whole is considered a major war zone by the ACLED. You would think that president would prioritize something this pressing, but she gets offended at the very thought of her doing something about the cartels. Her predecessor, AMLO, did the same thing and he is widely regarded as a cartel stooge. She’s now being increasingly viewed in the same light.
You ah… You been there? Nah, it’s cool. Keep the honkies over there
You can’t have this all or nothing approach. You’ll never get anything done. This should be celebrated as a step in the right direction and further actions be encouraged.
Big issue in the kinds of discussion here in lemmy
It’s not all or nothing. This law is fine in of itself, but in the context that it’s in, it comes off as tone deaf from the president. This would be like Putin legalizing recreational marijuana while their invasion of Ukraine is still ravaging the Russian economy. In a vacuum such a law is fine, but in the real world there’s a giant elephant in the room that waiting to be addressed.
I mean… I get your sentiment (and admittedly, I’m not really knowledgeable about the situation over there), but if the cartels’ influence is really as pervasive as you say… is there even anything that can be realistically done to address the problem directly? Has any candidate (even minor ones) proposed a plan to deal with them and they got messed with? Or is everyone just too disillusioned to even try?
Genuinely asking, because the way you described it, it sounds even worse than the Mafia situation in the nineties in Italy, and that was really bleak.
the thing is, if i understand this correctly, taking the US approach to security (send in a lot of soldiers, hurt everyone in the way, find nothing, leave) doesn’t work. it just doesn’t make sense to send in more soldiers. ironically, giving up the war on drugs would probably do more to improve the situation than trying to win it; as it would put a permanent end to the violence and bloodshed. and i see her doing that.
The state of Sinaloa has seen a 400% increase in homicides in 2025, do you even begin to comprehend how insane that is? Keep in mind, Sinaloa already had one of the highest homicide rates in the world in 2024 where homicides increased by over 80%? Right now Sinaloa is one of the most dangerous places in the world, and the thing is that it’s not even the worst state in the country. Other states like Colima and Guanajuato are even worse. A good 6 out of the 10 most violent cities in the world are in Mexico. In the crazy parts of Mexico, things are really bad.
Keep in mind, Mexican cartels don’t just mostly kill amongst each other like US gangs. The average people by a heavy price. They kill, torture, rape, extort, and corrupt everything. They effect every level of society. It’s not just drugs either, your thinking is way outdated. These cartels have expanded to also be the primary drivers behind human smuggling, human trafficking, arms trafficking, illegal mining, money laundering, counterfeit products, fuel theft (from both pipelines and distribution networks), agricultural farming (both legal and illegal), and the list goes on and on. This is on top of their usual protection rackets (read: extortion), drugs, and corruption.
For someone who sits far away from all this violence it sounds for poetic to suggest that the Mexican government stop fighting the cartels and instead “focus on the underlying issues”, but for the people that live there? That’s nonsense. They don’t have anywhere near the stability to start addressing things in such way. Their lives are in genuine danger, and they need active protection. It would be better if the Mexican government can address the underlying causes and fight the cartels head on, but they’re currently barely doing either.
I genuinely cannot fathom this mentality. Imagine being a Mexican living under the tyranny of the cartels and hearing your government say “sorry amigo, we’re not coming to protect your life that’s always in immanent danger, but hey, we did pass a law that will cut the work week by 8 hours, so cheer up eh? Hopefully this helps address the underlying causes and things will get better in 20 years, until then, adios.”
2030 is in ~3.5 years, things will be very, very different by that time with advanced AI.
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