That might be the stupidest fucking statement ever.

Your basically asking if unicorns shit gold would you take the unicorn poop.

It’s nonsensical. It doesn’t reflect the reality of the situation. Anyone can make up b******* hypotheticals to make something sound bad. It’s still b*******.

Why the fuck would anyone give a fuck about the plutonium stuff? Kick starters, investment backing, and crowd funding are all standard ways to generate initial revenue. It’s a f****** company. It needs money to buy hardware in paper server costs. Development isn’t free and if you want people to work full-time on something you have to get this pay them.

He basically asked for $300k to start full-time development and Kickstart the company after he left closed development. He provided a full proof of service documentation in history of his closed development.

The only people who have any issue with the plutonium stuff are those who are either too f****** retarded to understand basic business or a too far up their own asses to think that everything should be free in life.

If you self-host you don’t have to pay f****** wild concept considering how many self-toast services actually charge you money for full service. So that alone is already one up on a lot of stuff.

A basic subscription is far more reliable than donations if you want a company to be able to actually function. A subscription provides a reliable income so you can actually plan your costs and budgets. It’s a far better option than microtransactions that discord seems to want to push.

Cuz again server costs and vitamin costs aren’t free. Remember FOSS stands for free as in freedom to do what you want with the software within the license not free as in it doesn’t cost you f****** anything.

If fluxer had come out of the gate with no proof of concept, no history. No explanation of the credentials of the developer. No business license and no source code on demonstration and just said hey. Trust me bro. I need 300 Grand then. Yeah it would be an issue. But lo and behold the reality is none of that’s true.

Could it all go poof belly up and a month time 2 months a year? Yes of course, small businesses die all the time. 300K is not a lot of money for a small business. Frankly, the fact he only asked for $300k is more of a red flag than he asked for money at all. Cuz he’s going to have to pull a lot f****** more money if you wants to do anything remotely clothes to what his goal is. If he had shot for a 500k 600k somewhere in that vicinity. I would personally be more trusting than him asking for $300k. Much more than 600k and I would start asking questions as that’s a little bit much for a initial investment backing.

Seriously, the more I look around on Lemmy the more, I think that nobody here seems to actually understand that s*** costs money.

The ever continuing trend of foss enthusiasts having less then no fuckinf clue the FUCK normal people use computers for.

Xmpp is great but you are 100% right. It’s not a discord replacement. It never will be. It is court replacement and it is not trying to be a discord replacement. People need to stop trying to force it to be one. The same thing goes with matrix though to a lesser extent.

Matrix at least is trying to be a team’s replacement, which is a legitimate alternative to what discord does for the average user.

Matrix has a whole host of other problems that will make and never be a viable alternative. But none of them are technical in nature. It’s mostly just the fragmentation will nature of it. And how confusing it is to navigate.

At the moment the only two legitimate replacement options are stoat and fluxer. Stoat is a dead end and unluckly to go anywhere. While fluxer is only like 2 weeks into its open beta just released its code base to the public after a long-ass time of closed development. And barely has enough funding even with their Kickstarter thing. Fluxer has passed 100,000 user Mark already and growing.

It’s also the only thing that’s actually trying to be an app for your average user. It’s actually targeting the same demographic discord was.

Which matters a lot. Matrix xmpp all these other things aren’t targeting the same demographic. They are not trying to be a replacement. I mean, I’m sure they’re happy to scoop up some new users and help expand their reach a little bit who doesn’t want to see their project grow after all.

But all these people trying to push matrix xmpp and what not is like going to a construction site telling a worker. Hey, your pickup truck is old and s***** you should stop using it and go use this nice moped while they look at you. Like you’re a f****** retard as they have to lug around a ton and a half of materials and tools everyday in the moped. Why perfectly good means of conveyance will do the job better than the pickup truck as the purpose of a vehicle cannot fully fulfill the same role that the pickup truck fills.

This was voice dictated if the grammar is f***** up. Sorry my brain don’t work too good sometimes

Look at fluxer it’s stoat developed by someone who isn’t retarded. Has done more in a fraction of the time and actually has functional features

Might make right has always and will always be the de facto. It takes those with. Might choosing to not have it make right for anything else to exist.

That’s the reality of history and anyone who has even a grade school understanding of the history of humanity knows it.

We can all want better, and we all know the cost of the fall out of might makes right. But that doesn’t change reality, it only makes it more painful to watch history repeat.

Like most countries in all of history with remotely any amount of power. The avg citizen doesn’t give a fuck about foreign policy.

If your country isn’t militaristically weak or at risk and your people are’t coming home in body bags. You will be hard pressed to find a country with a population that doesn’t care about it self first and foremost with foreign policy a distant thought.

Iv unironically not been hired for jobs because of this. Because of how well I separate my online and offline life and my entirely non use of Facebook, Twitter, etc. iv had background companies report me as suspicious due to lack of information.

It’s fucked up.

They are stupid would be my assumption. This said as an American.

Iv come to learn over the years. If you want to buy computer parts just do it.

Your actively stupid if you don’t cause some bigger idiot with more money then brains will make a new grift that causes everything to be unaffordable.

Fuck waiting for deals, fuck thinking twice. Just fucking buy it and ignore reality around you cause you will be pissed either way.

Either a deal comes and you fucked yourself, or everything goes to the moon and now you have nothing AND your fucked.

If there is still food to be stolen from your neighbours then things haven’t reached the point of revolt.

If there is still enough energy to be expended on hating your neighbor, then you haven’t reached the true point of revolt

When things are truly at their worst, your neighbor has no food to take. Your neighbor has no goods worth stealing. Harming them brings you no food, no money and less energy.

When things have reached that point, that is when the only option left is revolt and it does not matter what consumerism what gifts are given what lies are said. The only thing left to do is revolt or die. And no group of people will simply choose to die.

Very few companies will fund any research into this field and they almost always have it locked in private libraries and you have to request for it specifically. You basically won’t ever find anything on the subject publicly or hell, even behind a publicly accessible paywall.

There have been a number of people over the years who have done this very research and spoken about it publicly and that’s a key complaint they have on it.

Few times that research has been shared and I’ve had the privilege to actually read it. It has been shown that one. It is totally normal for sex preference development to just be stunted. It is a thing that just happens. That yes therapy does help and for the most part those who would not abuse so long as they get therapy show no indication that they would change in become an abuser.

It has also been shown that when there are healthy alternatives for the expression, those who are abusers and do so due to mental health, developmental or standard sexual preferences have access to those healthy alternatives. They are more likely to stop abusing or seek therapy once they have found a healthy outlet.

Pretty much the only case where you can say that not having a healthy alternative and therapy shows no help or those who choose to be abusers do entirely to personal reasons.

Basically the only time not having harm free. Healthy alternative material helps is when you’re talking about rapists not pedophiles.

That’s the other part of the problem. So many people just assume pedophiles are rapists. When one is just the sexual attraction, the editor is someone who is a abuser. And while common for those two things to be labels on the same person they don’t have to be, nor do they need to be.

We demonize the issue so heavily that we do frequently drive people to seek out a healthy alternative and a safe method of expression into circles with abusers who will then use those people to make a profit. Which only drives the need for more abuse material.

It’s the same problem that you see with basically any other drug vise issue that we overly demonize in society. If you don’t give people a healthy alternative and a clear path from problem to safe solution to therapy, they’ll never make it to therapy.

But unfortunately, due to the nature of the subject, finding anyone who’s willing to fund more research, finding anyone who’s willing to have their name publicly attached to that research and finding anyone who’s willing to fund actual help for the issue is basically impossible.

For obvious reasons, I’m not going to read any reply to this comment. I’ve had enough death threats to last a lifetime. So if you have a differing opinion or if you want any more information then share it with others and do your own research.

I’m only sharing my personal knowledge that I have on the topic. Whether or not you choose to believe me is your prerogative. As always, this is the internet. Do your own research. And if you do not know how blame your public high school.

The annoying part is having healthy alternatives actually reduces real world harm. So punishing these people for seeking healthy and harm free avanues to deal with their mental issues and sexual needs. Is just baffling.

The scant amount of good research we have all indicates it’s not a choice but a developmental or mental health issue. For the vast vast majority of people who struggle with this problem.

But we just keep demonizing any hopes to let people get mental help or express themselves with out harming a minor.

So all we keep doing is reinforcing the taboo and driving those who struggle to associate with those who actively choose to be abusers. Thus only creating more abusers.

Till we find a way to synthesize gold at a large enough scale for manufacturing demands to be fully met it’s never going to lose value.

You could just not have Internet access on your phone… A smart phone is more then just the internet. It’s a camera, a Gameboy, an mp3 player, and other useful tools.

Feels like giving up all the usefulness just because it has internet access might be the best example of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

It’s because they are voiced by real people.

Attack the virtual avatar as a thin vail to.hide the fact your actually attacking the voice actor is a real problem.

Fuck it happens in audiobooks for heaven sakes.