They may look like travel shampoo bottles and smell like bubblegum, but after a few hundred puffs, some disposable, electronic cigarettes and vape pods release higher amounts of toxic metals than older e-cigarettes and traditional cigarettes, according to a study from the University of California, Davis. For example, one of the disposable e-cigarettes studied released more lead during a day’s use than nearly 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    All they had to do was keep it quiet for 15 years until the new generation was addicted.

    Remember when e-cigarettes looked like cigarettes, and were for a brief time allowed to be smoked indoors in public? That’s how it started, we were told they were completely healthy, and a way to “kick the habit”, because it’s “just a habit”, not one of the strongest addictions you’ll ever encounter, according to the people who make millions off of it.

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    Guess I’m gonna be ultra fucked. I’m not going back to cigarettes. And I already quit nicotine once for seven and a half years. Starting again was the biggest mistake of my life cause I don’t wanna go through that again. Oh well, it’s not like we have much chance at a future anyway.

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      Dude, I hope you try to quit those too. If you’ve ever met someone who can’t breathe from COPD, it’s a tough time for them.

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      Hey GPT! List a bunch of chemicals they put in our air, water, and food that we breathe, drink, and eat every day!

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      Sure, buddy!

      Sodium nitrite – processed meats (bacon, ham, hot dogs) – forms nitrosamines → DNA damage, colon cancer BHA – cereals, chips, preserved fats – endocrine disruption, liver and stomach tumors BHT – gum, snacks, butter – weak estrogen mimic, promotes lung and bladder tumors Propyl gallate – oils, meats, soup base – oxidative stress, endocrine disruption, tumor growth Red 3 (Erythrosine) – candy, cherries, cake decor – thyroid tumors, DNA strand breaks Potassium bromate – white bread, rolls – kidney tumors, oxidative DNA damage Titanium dioxide – candy, gum, supplements – genotoxicity, gut inflammation, colon cancer Aspartame – diet soda, sugar-free gum – linked to blood cancers in rodents, metabolic disruption Carrageenan – non-dairy milk, ice cream, deli meat – chronic gut inflammation, promotes tumors Polysorbate 80 – ice cream, dressings – gut permeability, inflammation, tumor promotion Carboxymethylcellulose – frozen foods, sauces – microbiome disruption, chronic inflammation TBHQ – chips, fast food, frozen meals – immune suppression, cell mutation, liver tumors Bisphenol A (BPA) – canned food linings, water bottles – hormone mimic, breast/prostate cancer Bisphenol S (BPS) – BPA-free plastics, receipts – endocrine disruptor, reproductive harm Phthalates – food packaging, gloves – testosterone suppression, breast cancer, birth defects PFOA – Teflon pans, food wrappers – thyroid disruption, kidney/testicular cancer PFOS – stain-resistant wrappers – immune suppression, liver tumors Trihalomethanes – chlorinated tap water – bladder cancer, reproductive toxicity Haloacetic acids – tap water disinfection byproducts – DNA damage, liver tumors Formaldehyde – air fresheners, glues – nasopharyngeal cancer, leukemia Benzene – car exhaust, cleaning products – blood cancers, bone marrow suppression Toluene – paints, nail polish – neurotoxin, possible liver cancer link Xylene – solvents, adhesives – respiratory inflammation, CNS toxicity Vinyl chloride – PVC plastics – liver cancer, angiosarcoma 1,3-butadiene – air pollution, rubber manufacturing – leukemia, lymphomas

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        Oh shit! So, how many of the chemicals in our immediate environment haven’t been tested for the effects they have on humans at all?

        Over 350,000 chemicals are in global use. Fewer than 1% have been thoroughly safety tested. Most are unvetted, unregulated, or shielded by trade secrecy.

        Holy shit! What can we do about that?

        ¯\(ツ)

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          OMG! What about compound effects, like what happens when you mix all of them randomly??

          Chemicals are tested alone, but we’re exposed to hundreds at once. Combined, they can amplify toxicity, disrupt hormones, damage DNA, overwhelm detox systems, and trigger chronic disease. The mix is far deadlier than any single part.

          Holy shit, no way!

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      I swapped off vapes back to American Spirits after finding this study lol.

      Marlboro reds are really tasty, but i know they’re horrible for you as far as cigarettes go.

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      It’s so fucked that every single actor in the Marlboro commercials died of lung cancer. All of them.

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    Do these threats exist in the exhaled smoke? It seems like people around me don’t GAF about the exhaust from vapes.

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      Sure, but the diesel bus that just drove by you gave you way more cancer than Brad with his Vanilla Mocha vape did.

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      Those people are jackasses and should be shamed. I quit a 6 year cigarette smoking habit with just one year of using an actual vape, not these shitty gas station things. One of the best decisions I’ve made in my life. The potential for smoking cessation is there. But stupid and obnoxious people set the basis for stereotypes.

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        The amount of nicotine one gets per puff in a vape is greater than a cigarette. As cigarettes are generally being made illegal, big tobacco needs to circumvent the law (which governments usually give multiple years notice to relevant companies). Sadly, using vapes is not giving up cigarette smoking but merely moving addiction from one nicotine method to another. Teens vaping causing a life-long addiction is no different from teens smoking and doing the same.

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    If you read the paper, it assumes a 100% absorption rate of the heavy metals emitted.

    I’m not here to defend vapes but I think that is a seriously overlooked flaw in this study. Most people don’t puff a cigarette/vape and hold it in their lungs until it’s completely absorbed.

    Couldn’t see anything about the bioavailability of these carcinogens via lungs factored into the absorption rate either.

    Ontop of that the sample size from this study is abysmal and from the same manufacturer and there is also a declared conflict of interest.

    IMO more studies need to be done before we can conclusively determine the damage and risks of disposable vapes.

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      Some of the studies on smoking I’ve seen were less about understanding how and why people consume tobacco and recommend alternatives, and more like echoing the old practices and beliefs of the temperance movement, which considers tobacco and alcohol as archenemies of humanity. That anytime there’s someone publicly declaring they quit smoking, it’s followed with praises which at times reminiscent of a tent revival.

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      They’re comparing it to cigarettes and other vapes.

      20 times more lead is still 20 times more lead.

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        Cigarettes have a myriad of carcinogens like toluene, benzene, formadelhyde, hexamine, napthaline and acetone

        Stating that vapes are more toxic than cigarettes over one metric is disingenuous journalism.

        I’m not disagreeing about the lead content but studies like this get picked up by journalists with the comprehension of a tomato and are then misconstrued into these fear-creating headlines for engagement.

        The adoption of vapes tremendously ate into the big tobacco profits, its an extremely effective way of getting off cigarettes. (for better or worse)

        If we instead listened to these studies and developed a similar form of nicotine replacement therapy with harm minimisation in mind under industry regulation we’d do far more for smokers, vapers and our healthcare systems than any fear mongering ‘don’t do it!’ campaigns which time and time again do not work.

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          I said they tested them against cigarettes and older vapes.

          You’re the one msirepresenting the study.

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      Lead comes from the device hardware, not the juice. Heating coils, solder, and metal parts shed particles when hot.

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        It’s not from the coil, at least in the cases that this article is about, but other parts of the tank. Shitty manufacturing, anyways

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          Or just another shitty study like the one they did in Oregon where they fired the coils for 60 seconds at a time and literally melted the rigs down before measuring what chemicals off gassed from the smoldering pile of plastic and metal.

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            Yeah no Chinese ever shoved cancer in the face of consumers for money! Let’s trust capitalism on this one.

            🙄

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        Given how short the DMT trip is—and the fact that DMT vapes are a thing now—this is entirely possible. I mean I’ve done it. It’s a lot harder to break through than you think. You’re still going to be mostly grounded with reality. You’ll have some trippy thoughts and see some pretty neat visuals, then it’s back to normal in under 10 minutes.

        That said, I would still only recommend this to people who have tripped at least once before. If you’re looking to replace your oral fixation, I’d recommend a 1:1:1 weed vape for day-to-day use, and a higher THC live resin formula for the evenings.

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    One of the few benefits of Trump’s de minimus revocation is that smuggling these in through parcel shipping will significantly be reduced.

    In the end though, you should be mixing your own juice and ideally wrapping your own coils if you vape. It’s easy and it’s damn cheap by comparison(what’s sold locally for 28 dollars I mix myself for 3) and you know exactly what’s in it.

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      That’s what I’ve done for years now. I started at the very beginning when we were using eGo batteries and Nova tanks and rewicking them with tea bags. Now I use quality kanthal that I sourced a lot of when the place I was using shut off access to the hobbiest market (they may have returned, but I don’t remember the name). There’s some sort of certification sticker on the spools of wire that specify it is Kanthal A1 which contains aluminum as the most concerning metal.

      Who the fuck KNOWS what these resistance wires in the disposables are. The vape manufacturer probably doesn’t even know and really, doesn’t care. All they have to do is get close to the right resistance for each coil produced and the computer takes care of the rest. Lead makes metal bend easier so if you throw a little lead in your resistance wire it’s going to go through the machine easier.