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I’m applying to jobs, and the amount of AI assessments, rounds, AI interviewers, questionnaires, is nuts.
One of these emails for example,
It’s rough.
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Corrected headline: AI gave companies a new excuse to make jobs worse
That’s a thing too, but this article is about interviewing and hiring.
AI teleprompters for remote interviews, AI generated resumes, AI candidates screening, etc.
Everything really shifted aggressively over the last 12 months.
Remember the pre Covid times when we had mostly on site job interviews? Yeah turns out it’s harder to cheat in person. Maybe companies should go back to that and pay a wage that is fair for the area they operate from.
Impossible. The CEOs would have less time on their islands that way.
My last 4 jobs have been in person interview. Never had luck with online aplications, hell my current job I’ve been at 2 years now wasn’t even hiring. I was moving to the area and thought it looked like a great place and reached out and we managed to make something happen. Industry dependent however it can be very hard to do that, nature of my business is mainly independently owned shops so it’s easy to get ahold of the boss and make a conversation happen, that isn’t the case everywhere.
I’m sorry it sucks.
It seems like there’s a dividing line between newer techs and senior techs that determines the difficulty in getting new gigs. I don’t know where it is but I crossed it at some point in the last 10 years.
Each time I’m done with a job I’m sure there will be some kind of horrible gauntlet to get the next engagement, but it stopped happening. Maybe I just made a lucky connection but it keeps happening. I think they just want candidates who have seen some shit.
I guess the point is that eventually you’ll have done something that gives you the right gray in the ponytail. Keep at it.
Works both ways too. The number of AI generated resumes I’ve gone through, the incomprehensible business speak…
I guess you were hiring. If that’s the case, would you prefer a manually written resume that is not matched to the listed position and skills (because applicants now have to send so many resumes that they don’t have any more time to match them)?
No no. I want the applicant to be human. Don’t bullshit. No buzzwords. Just say I can do this, I want to do that, I like turtles. Be yourself and don’t fill the resume with fake ass shit, it’s so obvious and depressing
Problem with that is most jobs are using an AI ingestion and rating system. So if I were a job applicant who doesn’t like AI and prefers to hand write resumes but I need a job to feed my family, I’m going to just blast out the AI resumes anyway because it just has the highest chance of working.
The bullshit isnt for you, its for the AI filter that handles intake before you read a single application. (And if your not using AI to filter, your getting spammed by AI applications because everyone else is playing that game) Applicants are trying to beat the machine, and when the requirements get stricter the applicants just use more AI to send out more applications. Its a vicious cycle that will only end when hiring managers filter with something that a machine can not do.
Dont even get started on the personal data collection of the job sites. Its the most soul crushing thing to be looking for a job right now, anything to make you stand out of a crowd is ignored, volume of applications and adherance to posted requirments are the only way to get a fleeting interaction with a human.
I feel like the solution either needs to go back to in person and paper ads or a personal website acts as your resume, anything other than what we have right now.
Its the most soul crushing thing to be looking for a job right now, anything to make you stand out of a crowd is ignored, volume of applications and adherance to posted requirments are the only way to get a fleeting interaction with a human.
Or none at all.
The advice is not helping either, since you’re told to both make your resume and cover letter stand out, but also to make it generic so the automated system doesn’t parse it wrong and disregard it.
The problem is 99% of hiring is looking for specific keywords and phrases like “increased revenue”. Since they always do that applicants fall into the same patterns, like an evolutionary arms race.
“We’ve decided to hire chatgpt since that is who wrote all of the applications.”
Maybe don’t demand a 1,000 word essay for a kitchenhand.
Just a thought.
I’m glad I’m near death, every day I hope the black hole at the center of the galaxy will swallow the whole solar system.
And here I was thinking that I was cynical
You okay, buddy?
Tired. The endless grind of mindless constant changes to everything for no gains. I can’t keep up and I don’t feel like it anymore.
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It has certainly not done any good to job search.
For example, search for job ads for “embedded Linux software engineer” in your area. Notice the phrasing and keywords which are used. Now, ask on chatgpt.com to write a job ad for an “Embedded Linux software developer”, without any further info. You’ll see that half of the job ads use, at least in large parts, exactly the same phrasing and the same silly list of technically unrelated protocols - and demand senior experience in real-time systems, which is actually needed in perhaps 1% of use cases. And looking for Linux kernel developers which “are experts in C++”…
job markets ruined work
“It will create more jobs.” is the equivalent of trickle down economics.
It’s always the fucking suits. And nepotism.
Man this bullshit seems to have gotten so much worse since I last looked for a job in 2023
Prior to my current job, I worked at one for 7 years. I’m an industrial electrician, so maybe the demand is higher. But in 2023, I applied for 12 jobs, got 3 interviews which resulted in 2 offers. All cold applications on indeed. I was picky about which jobs I even applied for. For one of the offers I did not want the job and it paid too little so I strung them along as much as I could before I finally turned it down as I had a feeling I was getting my current job, but it took forever for some management to come back from field service for my second interview.
Same story. 2022 I got 12 interviews in one week, 8 in the next from about 30 applications (not counting interviews for second round)
Done i didn’t pass, others didn’t pass me
2026, I’m looking again
200+ applications.
1 reply so far that at least got me a third interview round but I just found out there are 2 more rounds. It’s a higher level job, fine, but seriously… 200, and the one that replied was application #2
From the rest?
Nothing. A very few (less than ten) at least replied with the “we love you but…” mails, the rest didn’t even bother with that much.
Companies have been very spoiled somehow because most think it’s okay to ask for an application that you include a cover letter why you want the job, a separate letter saying why you love the xpmpa souch, a one minute video about how I love the company, and so on
BITCH did you forget that an employment is a mutually beneficial relationship, where you get the fruits of my work and you pay me a good salary? You are not the king, your company sucks and I want to work because I need an income to pay rent
He should be having AI write tests for each candidate.
AI has Tinderized hiring. Workers are applying to hundreds of positions and never hearing back; companies are receiving thousands of resumes and struggling to respond. More than that, AI has Amazoned hiring.[…]
Just use “connections,” you know, the fancy word for “rich friends.” (At least that’s all they mean when first getting into industry)
Have been applying from a while and have deduced that any org that take OA without cam on or without monitoring or takes any AI interview is just isn’t interested in hiring
What is “OA” ?
Online assignment
Just use AI to fill out the assessments. We are interviewing and only half joked that if the applicant didn’t use AI in some way they aren’t qualified. Just don’t try to hide it.
